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Old 06-10-2013, 08:33 AM  
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Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

The NSA leaker has come forward in a June 9 interview on The Guardian, the British media outlet that broke the story of the NSA acquisition of phone records and access to online activity. Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA, has come forward to identify himself as the NSA whistleblower being sought in the release of NSA files. He said he is not hiding because he has not done anything wrong.

Snowden is currently an employee of a defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, and he has previously worked for various others. This has put him inside the National Security Agency for the last four years.

The NSA leaker, aware that he would be facing the ire of the U.S. government, made the choice to sacrifice his comfortable life in Hawaii and $200,000 salary to make the public aware of the depth of the privacy infringements that he claims exist. He says he doesn't want to live in a society like that.

The NSA leaker was a former CIA tech assistant

"The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to," he said.

You can view Edward Snowden's video interview here.: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...r-surveillance

The technology specialist is "holed up" in a motel in Hong Kong, basically waiting for the other shoe to drop.

He wrote a note that went with the second set of documents, according to The Guardian:

"I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

The head of NSA, James Clapper, has reported the leaks of the NSA documents as a crime. You can read about that here.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:56 PM   #106
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Hang on. I'll bump the thread in question, and we can discuss it there.
Go ahead. I'm not interested. I'm more interested in this.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:56 PM   #107
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I don't go by interpretations. I go by what the document says on its face.
HAHAHAHAHA.. this coming from someone with the reading comprehension skills of an 8 year old. (my apologies to 8 year olds)

If you go by a strict reading of the actual text then this definitely isn't a 4th amendment violation you ****ing loon.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:57 PM   #108
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Go ahead. I'm not interested. I'm more interested in this.
Of course you are. You've only been wrong a little in this thread.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:57 PM   #109
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I don't go by interpretations. Especially, by men who will not be bound down by its chains. I go by what the document says on its face.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:58 PM   #110
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It's debates of this nature, that out the real NeoCons, from the real Patriots.
No, it's threads like this that let's the loons spread their plumage and show themselves.

I am adamantly against government spying on its own people, but the difference between you and I is that I can be against something but still live in THE REAL WORLD and know it isn't necessarily illegal or unconstitutional.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:00 PM   #111
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Thanks for conceding the argument.

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HAHAHAHAHA.. this coming from someone with the reading comprehension skills of an 8 year old. (my apologies to 8 year olds)
Nope. Said by a person with a case of Tourettes Syndrome.

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If you go by a strict reading of the actual text then this definitely isn't a 4th amendment violation you ****ing loon.
We disagree Mr. Tourette's. I guess that makes Judge Napolitano a loon as well.


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Old 06-10-2013, 01:03 PM   #112
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:03 PM   #113
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The Fourth Amendment covers all forms of personal data and possessions that were available at the time of its writing. They didn't specifically cite data stored in bytes because that didn't exist.

Now you can adhere to the letter of the law if you want. I will stick with the spirit of the law.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:05 PM   #114
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We disagree Mr. Tourette's. I guess that makes Judge Napolitano a loon as well.
Napolitano is an absolute loon... not close to your level but a loon nonetheless.

You do realize that not ONE person on this board takes anything you say seriously. You are the village idiot that neither the left leaning nor the right leaning members want anything to do with.
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This makes me wonder if the Obama Admin blackmailed Justice Roberts before he decided ACA. Anything is possible.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:07 PM   #116
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Napolitano is an absolute loon... not close to your level but a loon nonetheless.
In your opinion, lover of Mr Haley Barbour the Illegal Alien appeaser and GOP hack.

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My rep panel disagrees with you. As well as a some posts in some threads. You and your everyone generality are just statists. That's all that means.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:08 PM   #117
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My rep panel disagrees with you. As well as a few threads.
Wait, those are just opinions, right?

Anyway, I suspect having a pulse and a vagina helps in that regard. Just a hunch.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:09 PM   #118
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The Fourth Amendment covers all forms of personal data and possessions that were available at the time of its writing. They didn't specifically cite data stored in bytes because that didn't exist.

Now you can adhere to the letter of the law if you want. I will stick with the spirit of the law.
Ok, you're still not getting it. The 4th protects your data IN YOUR POSSESSION. As a matter of fact, courts have upheld that even if your data is not in your possession and is seized you don't have to give up any passwords to that data (5th Amendment protection). But once that data is held by SOMEONE ELSE, you have waived your 4th Amendment rights concerning it.

This was a fine interpretation a few years ago but as EVERYTHING moves to cloud services and such... the Supreme COurt is probably going to need to update this... or people need to start using encryption on everything.
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I put you back on ignore Donger.
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I out you back on ignore Donger since you can't argue
Darn. What will I use to fill the void.... Oh, look, a quark!
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