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Old 05-28-2013, 12:55 PM  
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An owner suggested that we create a suggestion box, but there was no place to put his suggestion. So I'm creating this suggestion box so he can submit his suggestion for a suggestion box.

Also, please put any other suggestions here to improve the game so we can centralize the feedback and separate it from the game discussions themselves. As our beta testers, we appreciate your feedback and volunteer work. If we are creating the Apollo moon mission, you people are Ham the chimpanzee.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:55 AM   #46
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What if you set a limit on the number of bids a team could place in a 24-hour period.

This would make each offer that more precious.

Right now people just flip offers willy nilly if they feel like it.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:56 AM   #47
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All of this.

I feel like the hours I spent researching were a pretty big waste of time. I'm not bitter, I knew the rules going in. But I don't think the system as it stands today is optimum.

I think every player (or at least MOST players) should have an immediate signing threshold. If you bid over $300 for Sherman he's yours. That shouldn't be public knowledge.

Or perhaps an algorithm that assigns a percentage chance for an immediate signing that increases in probability as the bids get higher (a guy has a .0001% chance of immediately signing for $1, but a 75% chance of signing immediately for $250).
I like this idea.

I deleted the rest of his post since I don't see how the snipers have any leverage whatsoever as the clock doesn't end, it just restarts with each new bid.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:56 AM   #48
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I had also pondered the idea of a "half life" timer, with the countdown becoming smaller with each bid, but that just encourages ebay style bidding I think.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:58 AM   #49
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Or maybe...if you don't bid on a player within a certain amount of time, you're out of the running for that player.
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Old 06-11-2013, 09:59 AM   #50
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I like this idea.

I deleted the rest of his post since I don't see how the snipers have any leverage whatsoever as the clock doesn't end, it just restarts with each new bid.
Leverage might have been a bad choice of words. But there is no incentive to do any research and there is no incentive to bid until the last minute.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:10 AM   #51
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I had Andre Brown as one of my first bids and sat there and watched everyone ignore him for two and a half days. Was sure I was going to land him cheap.

Gets bid up about an hour ago.
There was 1 day 6 hours left when I bid on him. Weekends are my weakness. I am rarely online on weekends. Wasn't ignoring him, was just watching the market a bit.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:12 AM   #52
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There was 1 day 6 hours left when I bid on him. Weekends are my weakness. I am rarely online on weekends. Wasn't ignoring him, was just watching the market a bit.
Like when Foster sat there for 36 hours without a bid and then you bid on him within 5 minutes of me making the opening bid on him? 15 minutes later he's the highest paid guard on the FA market.

You're as bad as anyone about it.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:13 AM   #53
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All of this.

I feel like the hours I spent researching were a pretty big waste of time. I'm not bitter, I knew the rules going in. But I don't think the system as it stands today is optimum.

I think every player (or at least MOST players) should have an immediate signing threshold. If you bid over $300 for Sherman he's yours. The actual number shouldn't be public knowledge.

Or perhaps an algorithm that assigns a percentage chance for an immediate signing that increases in probability as the bids get higher (a guy has a .0001% chance of immediately signing for $1, but a 75% chance of signing immediately for $250).

There needs to be an incentive to bid early and often. Otherwise the snipers have all the leverage.

I also think the whole system is a bit too transparent. To best illustrate what really happens in the NFL, the waters need to be muddied a bit, IMO. An NFL GM has an agent and other GMs for sources, neither of which may be telling them the whole story. I'm not sure how you implement that into the game, but I think it would be an improvement.
I don't like the immediate signing. it caters to the person that clicks the button first.

Here's a thought though. Instead of having the nickel and dime micro-transactions that go back and forth. Make it a 3-bid limit per player... meaning you can only bid 3 times for that player. Once you've bid that third time You've submitted your highest. Will make people actually bid closer to what they'd be willing to pay rather than just doing $1 over the most recent, repeatedly. This only works if the bid owner is private though.
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By the way, you're going to sit on that Foster bid for 48 hours before I jump you up on it again. This is stupid.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:17 AM   #55
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Like when Foster sat there for 36 hours without a bid and then you bid on him within 5 minutes of me making the opening bid on him? 15 minutes later he's the highest paid guard on the FA market.

You're as bad as anyone about it.
Wait what? There was NO bid on Foster when I made the bid for him. I gave him a multi yr contract bid. I thought I was the first to make a bid on him and wouldn't have any competition. I thought it was weird that I made a bid on him and then people were bidding immediately after I started on him. I had only gone through Half the FA's leading up to today... am finishing up the rest today... I think the timing of our bids were coincidental on him.
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By the way, you're going to sit on that Foster bid for 48 hours before I jump you up on it again. This is stupid.
There's two things at play here that need to be changed.

1. the bids are private, only the amount is viewable. The timer\owner of bid needs to not be seen.

2. the bidding timer needs to be reduced, drastically.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:20 AM   #57
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Or maybe...if you don't bid on a player within a certain amount of time, you're out of the running for that player.
That's a good idea. There is a 48-hr window from the initial bid. Anyone who makes a bid within that first 48 hours can then bid until the Free Agent signs, but no one else.
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Wait what? There was NO bid on Foster when I made the bid for him. I gave him a multi yr contract bid. I thought I was the first to make a bid on him and wouldn't have any competition. I thought it was weird that I made a bid on him and then people were bidding immediately after I started on him. I had only gone through Half the FA's leading up to today... am finishing up the rest today... I think the timing of our bids were coincidental on him.
Not true, I made the first bid on him this morning.

Perhaps it's just a fluke and we both made a bid at the same time, but I gave him exactly what it took to get him locked into a 4 year deal and a couple minutes later yours was $1 above mine. That was why I immediately bid on him after you did; I'd targeted him this morning.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:25 AM   #59
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Not true, I made the first bid on him this morning.

Perhaps it's just a fluke and we both made a bid at the same time, but I gave him exactly what it took to get him locked into a 4 year deal and a couple minutes later yours was $1 above mine. That was why I immediately bid on him after you did; I'd targeted him this morning.
I've had to counterbid like 4 times already this morning. When I made my bid, I was the first person. I see what happened. Your initial bid was more than mine... I had made the initial bid, however your browser had not updated as you were going through it, this has to be true from my perspective because I checked my bid after I had submitted and it was there with Dallas's 3 yr deal I had offered. Your "initial" bid was naturally larger than mine, I countered immediately when seeing this.
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I may be one of the few, but I like the idea of knowing what team is bidding on what player. It isn't like the Chiefs don't know who the Raiders are bringing in for a workout.
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