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Old 01-25-2013, 04:27 PM  
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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why weíre not more emotional,Ē Matheny said in his office after Sundayís game. ďThey say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. Thatís what got us here. This isnít the time to change it.Ē

Itís hard to argue with the managerís assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinalsí veterans still havenít forgotten. They still arenít over it. Itís why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliakís urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:00 PM   #1891
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Yeah, that was fun. Loved the big inning after Wright pissed down his leg and bobbled the double-play ball.
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:33 PM   #1894
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Yeah, that was fun. Loved the big inning after Wright pissed down his leg and bobbled the double-play ball.
He's always been an overrated bum.
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And there's a pitch I hate... haha.

I am not a huge fan of the cutter. It has caused problems for a LOT of guys who either can't throw it effectively or whose arm can't handle throwing it.

It also seems to leech some fastball velocity over time.
A pitcher who throws overhead like Wacha is going to need something to get in on lefties and tail away from righties.

He throws a circle change for the opposite effect, but the curve is going to be 12-6.

I could live with him learning a two-seamer and running his four seamer on in the hands of LHB, but I doubt he's going to morph from a two pitch to a five pitch guy. Fastball, curve, change is a good start.
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Big ole brawl in the Dodger game. Its kind of STL related. Big Mac was pissed! lol Mark got his boys back no doubt lol Them roids boy. lol



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Big ole brawl in the Dodger game. Its kind of STL related. Big Mac was pissed! lol Mark got his boys back no doubt lol Them roids boy. lol



Too bad the ball that hit Greinke in the head wasn't a through-and-through. What a douche.
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Too bad the ball that hit Greinke in the head wasn't a through-and-through. What a douche.
Any player who takes a whole season off without being physically injured is a huuuuge vag in my book.
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Any player who takes a whole season off without being physically injured is a huuuuge vag in my book.
I'd probably be with you on that one, but my wife has SAD (social anxiety disorder), too.

It can be crippling if untreated. There have been times, before she was taking something to level herself out, when I couldn't even get her to go the grocery store with me.

It affects everyone a little differently, but it sucks. Hard. So I'll stand up for Greinke's wacky ass when it comes to this.

It wasn't a whole season, either... something like 6 weeks in the middle of a season.
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In addition to the curve, Wacha should learn a cutter so that he has a pitch that can eat up lefties.
He evidently has the best changeup in the organization, what the hell does he need another pitch to neutralize lefties for?

A righty can't have a better weapon in his arsenal against lefties than a good changeup. They trail to the armside and they drop right out of the hitting zone after looking like a hanging fastball as the batter starts his swing. Wacha's all set against lefties with that thing.

Besides, I'm with Duncan, the damn cutter tends to diminish a fastball's effectiveness because pitchers fall in love with them. I don't really need to remind you about Izzy's fascination with that !@#$ing thing, do I? I always loved seeing a guy with a 97 mph fastball and a hammer curve float a ****ing 91 mph cutter right into the center of the plate...

Wacha needs to refine his curveball (which presently sucks, IMO), stay on top of his changeup and work on his fastball command (you can see him guiding it fairly often, causing it to straighten out). Those 3 pitches are more than enough for him to handle any lineup and once he starts dicking around with a cutter, it'll be time he spends on it that has him losing the feel for his best 3 pitches.

Cutters are for guys with fading arms, not for guys that throw 96 with a bugs bunny change already.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:09 PM   #1902
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I've been poking around some advanced defense and baserunning stats the past few days and came across some interesting information regarding Allen Craig.

Basically, Fangraphs' UBR has Craig rated as the WORST baserunner in baseball this year (it's based on batted ball running attempts, largely dependent on how often and successfully they advance) and one of the worst defenders in baseball.

It's not as vicious on Craig's defensive numbers as Baseball Ref, which has him at an extreme negative number this year, but it's still not pretty.

It surprised me a little because, while I haven't regarded Craig as anything better than a slightly below-average fielder, I never thought he was bottom 10 in runs saved. Same thing with his baserunning.

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I've been poking around some advanced defense and baserunning stats the past few days and came across some interesting information regarding Allen Craig.

Basically, Fangraphs' UBR has Craig rated as the WORST baserunner in baseball this year (it's based on batted ball running attempts, largely dependent on how often and successfully they advance) and one of the worst defenders in baseball.

It's not as vicious on Craig's defensive numbers as Baseball Ref, which has him at an extreme negative number this year, but it's still not pretty.

It surprised me a little because, while I haven't regarded Craig as anything better than a slightly below-average fielder, I never thought he was bottom 10 in runs saved. Same thing with his baserunning.

Thoughts?
Sounds about right.

He's a pure station to station baserunner and a really abysmal defender. I don't know if he's regressed defensively or if I just didn't notice it last season, but he gets to nothing, he rarely if ever makes a clean stab on a ball and he can't pick balls from the dirt worth a damn. He's a really bad defensive player. The station to station baserunning thing wouldn't be quite as bad if he wasn't prone to making an inexplicable out every week or so.

Combine it with his power outage this season and I've been quite disappointed in Craig's performance so far.

He has a lot more to offer, IMO. Playing like he is, he's a 1.5-2 WAR player. That's not good enough for a cleanup hitter and 1b on one of the best teams in the league.
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I'd probably be with you on that one, but my wife has SAD (social anxiety disorder), too.

It can be crippling if untreated. There have been times, before she was taking something to level herself out, when I couldn't even get her to go the grocery store with me.

It affects everyone a little differently, but it sucks. Hard. So I'll stand up for Greinke's wacky ass when it comes to this.

It wasn't a whole season, either... something like 6 weeks in the middle of a season.
Sorry about that man that must be rough, thats no joke. i just feel in Greinkes case its different because he is a baseball player getting payed a lot of money.
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Sorry about that man that must be rough, thats no joke. i just feel in Greinkes case its different because he is a baseball player getting payed a lot of money.
It was undiagnosed before he stepped away from baseball. I don't think he's had any anxiety problems since it was recognized and he started being treated.

It's hard to describe until you've seen it up close. No matter what you do, SAD can be crippling and devastating. Even if you're a millionaire.
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