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Old 06-12-2013, 09:30 AM  
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Rand Paul, amnesty's latest cheerleader

Sickening what happened to this man. Hopefully he gets primaried and gets tossed from DC, never to return again.


Rand Paul to Illegals: ‘We Will Find a Place for You;' Envisions 12 Million ‘New Taxpayers’
June 12, 2013 - 10:21 AM

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Sen. Rand Paul (R.-Ky.) speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference at National Harbor, Md., on March 14, 2013. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)

(CNSNews.com) - In his prepared text for a speech he is delivering today at the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference and Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, Sen. Rand Paul (R.-Ky.) said to illegal aliens who want to live and work in the United States: “[W]e will find a place for you.”

Paul also said he envisions today’s illegal aliens becoming additional “taxpayers.”

“Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers,” said Paul.

Illegal aliens working in the United States today are not exempted from complying with the nation's tax laws anymore than they are exempted from complying with U.S. laws governing immigration or document fraud.

“First, everyone has to acknowledge that we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants,” said Paul. “If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.

“In order to bring conservatives to this cause however, those who work for reform must understand that a real solution must ensure that our borders are secure,” said Paul. “But we also must treat those who are already here with understanding and compassion.”


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Old 06-12-2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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So they're taking our jobs and they're taking our welfare?

What is the approximate number or illegals on welfare? Anything above 0 would certainly be bad. I'm just curious.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:26 PM   #17
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So they're taking our jobs and they're taking our welfare?

What is the approximate number or illegals on welfare? Anything above 0 would certainly be bad. I'm just curious.

•In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.


http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:08 PM   #18
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So they're taking our jobs and they're taking our welfare?

What is the approximate number or illegals on welfare? Anything above 0 would certainly be bad. I'm just curious.
Illegal Immigrants aren't eligible for actual welfare. They're not eligible for things like Food Stamps, EBT, Section 8, Child Tax credit etc.

They are able to use Medi-cal though iirc.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:11 PM   #19
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•In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.


http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
Quick look at the study shows that it includes Legal immigrants as well as Children of Illegals (a.k.a American citizens).

Like i said, REAL illegals aren't actually eligible for most welfare programs.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:20 PM   #20
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I don't personally see what Paul is offering as Amnesty. I think that you have to provide a path to citizenship. I like the idea that Paul has of forcing them all to register and become documented and putting them all on probation. As far as workable solutions, that's the most workable one I can imagine.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:26 PM   #21
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I like the idea that Paul has of forcing them all to register and become documented and putting them all on probation.
That's basically already happening right now. Most aren't eligible for that program though. However, those whom would've been eligible under the D.R.E.A.M act are now eligible for a program exactly like what you describe. It's not a pathway to citizenship yet, but it does allow them to work legally and obtain a driver's license after paying a fee, submitting proof that they were brought here as children, have completed school (or in the process of) and have submitted Biometrics to the FBI.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:29 PM   #22
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I wonder what percentage of these illegals will sign up if this passes? 75% max?
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