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Old 06-14-2013, 06:14 AM  
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Sebelius is batshit crazy

The crazy death angel from Kansas may be insane. First she ignores any humanity she may have had and Denys a life saving operation for a 10 year old. Too bad for death panel Kathleen, courts ruled for the child and she got her transplant . Bummer for the old bat.

Then she rolls this one out.....kids who don't get pre school from birth to age 5 may need to drop out of school by third grade.

Insane bitch.

(CNSNews.com) – Children who don’t get a pre-kindergarten education, ideally from birth to age 5, might fall behind and “may as well drop out” by third grade, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday at an event to garner support for President Barack Obama’s $75-billion proposal to increase pre-school enrollment across the country.

Sebelius said investing in pre-school education would bring “prosperity to all our people.”

“If we want to be a competitive country, if we want to make sure that we can achieve prosperity for all of our people, we have to figure out a way to have productive citizens throughout our population,” Sebelius said at the event, marking the one-year anniversary of an Educare school in the District of Columbia that serves children 6 weeks old to 5 years.

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Old 06-15-2013, 08:10 AM   #46
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...136877,00.html

Look at the data from the rest of the world. A 2012 report from the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) concludes that early-childhood education "improves children's cognitive abilities, helps to create a foundation for lifelong learning, makes learning outcomes more equitable, reduces poverty and improves social mobility from generation to generation."


This conclusion is based on data from 34 rich countries, many of which outperform the U.S. in educational achievement and--now--economic mobility. In many of these countries, 90% of 3-year-olds get early-childhood education. The OECD average for 4-year-olds is 81%. In the U.S., it is only 69%, and those children tend to be from middle- and upper-middle-class families.
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:25 AM   #47
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...136877,00.html

Look at the data from the rest of the world. A 2012 report from the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) concludes that early-childhood education "improves children's cognitive abilities, helps to create a foundation for lifelong learning, makes learning outcomes more equitable, reduces poverty and improves social mobility from generation to generation."


This conclusion is based on data from 34 rich countries, many of which outperform the U.S. in educational achievement and--now--economic mobility. In many of these countries, 90% of 3-year-olds get early-childhood education. The OECD average for 4-year-olds is 81%. In the U.S., it is only 69%, and those children tend to be from middle- and upper-middle-class families.
So is it an average, or is it those from the middle and upper class. Can't be both.
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:03 PM   #48
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This I know: Every day all day you're on a football bulletin board copying and pasting everything you see that is anti Obama to this website. Your life work is anti obama on a football bb, and YOU are calling someone a loser?


No shit. God forbid someone uses technology to check in on their kids...
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:07 PM   #49
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Look at the data from the rest of the world. A 2012 report from the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) concludes that early-childhood education "improves children's cognitive abilities, helps to create a foundation for lifelong learning, makes learning outcomes more equitable, reduces poverty and improves social mobility from generation to generation."


This conclusion is based on data from 34 rich countries, many of which outperform the U.S. in educational achievement and--now--economic mobility. In many of these countries, 90% of 3-year-olds get early-childhood education. The OECD average for 4-year-olds is 81%. In the U.S., it is only 69%, and those children tend to be from middle- and upper-middle-class families.

well hell we should ship them a bunch of our Mexicans who have no hope of learning English to start with.....ponder that.
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So is it an average, or is it those from the middle and upper class. Can't be both.
What?

It says in the U.S., 69% of children 4 yrs. of age get early childhood education. Of those 69%, most of them are from middle and upper class families. Meaning poor people's children are at a disadvantage b/c they don't have the money to send their children to better daycares that teach, or early education schools.

There is no average mentioned for the U.S., the average is mentioned for other countries.
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:11 PM   #51
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well hell we should ship them a bunch of our Mexicans who have no hope of learning English to start with.....ponder that.
What?
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:15 PM   #52
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What?

It says in the U.S., 69% of children 4 yrs. of age get early childhood education. Of those 69%, most of them are from middle and upper class families. Meaning poor people's children are at a disadvantage b/c they don't have the money to send their children to better daycares that teach, or early education schools.

There is no average mentioned for the U.S., the average is mentioned for other countries.
What is the % in the US of those who speak English? Be at least a bit honest before you post this bullshit.....Kids from two parent homes who speak English as a first language in the US would be how high? Pretty damn high....when you throw in the illegals and the inner city broken home and outer city trash (that includes white as well as black in both cases) ....the % goes to hell. And spending 75 billion wont change squat.

The issue is not spend more $$$. The issue is parents, or lack of, who dont give one good damn about the kids they breed.

Now, tell me I am a racist.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:47 PM   #53
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Her statement was made as part of a pitch for 75 billion freaking dollars in new spending for new federal programs to fund "education" for newborn to 5 years old. $75 BILLION. Get your head around that? WTF do you do with 75 billion. How many Richard Scarey books do we buy? How many versions of Marcie the happy Moose?

The Fed Govt should stick to things like keeping phone records and harrassing peolle through the IRS. They have pretty well ****ed up all other areas of education they have gotten involved in.
That's the way I read it too.

Total bullshit. Even if you spent 75 billion on this worthless program, these kids will still then get shuffled into an elementary program that undereducates them. There are better ways to spend 75 billion, even if you earmarked it on education.
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What is the % in the US of those who speak English? Be at least a bit honest before you post this bullshit.....Kids from two parent homes who speak English as a first language in the US would be how high? Pretty damn high....when you throw in the illegals and the inner city broken home and outer city trash (that includes white as well as black in both cases) ....the % goes to hell. And spending 75 billion wont change squat.

The issue is not spend more $$$. The issue is parents, or lack of, who dont give one good damn about the kids they breed.

Now, tell me I am a racist.
I won't tell you that you are a racist, Just stupid.

Maybe an early Childhood education would help those kids speak English.

Maybe an early Childhood education would increase the odds of kids in broken, inner city homes escape the circle of poverty their parents are stuck in.

Maybe that's the whole point of the program. To help these kids have a better chance at improving their life past their parents.

Maybe it is in the best economic interest of this country to have as many able producing members as it can. Maybe an investment in education pays dividends for a country when the child grows up.
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That's the way I read it too.

Total bullshit. Even if you spent 75 billion on this worthless program, these kids will still then get shuffled into an elementary program that undereducates them. There are better ways to spend 75 billion, even if you earmarked it on education.
Do you have any evidence that an early childhood education is worthless?
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What government education program has been a success?


I am not trying to be an ass, but I really don't know.
Well, our public education system was in place when our country (government) placed a man on the moon. Does that count?

Public education has been around for 150 years.
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Well, our public education system was in place when our country (government) placed a man on the moon. Does that count?

Public education has been around for 150 years.


backtrack that....what role did federal government play in education when John Glen was in grade school.....Lets see...the first space shots were in 63? Im close....

Take or give, any one of the original astronauts would have been in grade school in....1945? Im close

Bottom line your point is so far off its amazing.

Public education is not an issue. Its Federal involvement that is.
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backtrack that....what role did federal government play in education when John Glen was in grade school.....Lets see...the first space shots were in 63? Im close....

Take or give, any one of the original astronauts would have been in grade school in....1945? Im close

Bottom line your point is so far off its amazing.

Public education is not an issue. Its Federal involvement that is.
Government wasn't involved in education in 1945? That would be wrong.
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Government wasn't involved in education in 1945? That would be wrong.

Is that what I said? If you come to the playground at least be ready to play you ****wit.
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