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Old 06-21-2013, 10:09 PM  
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Would football be better if huddling was eliminated by reducing the play clock to 20 seconds?

Am I crazy to think that NFL teams shouldn't need to huddle? No other sport does it. NBA players don't draw up a play after every change of possession. It's boring as shit. It slows the game down. It's a complete waste of time.

Two reasons that it could actually happen.

1. The league is so worried about concussions that they might want to see the players get smaller. 325 pound D-Lineman won't exist. This could reduce the force in the collissions and reduce concussions.

2. The league is dying to figure out how to get more global appeal. The rest of the world loves soccer because it's a continuous game. When they see football, they get bored. It's funny because Americans think soccer is too boring because there isn't as much action, and they think football is boring because there's too much inaction. If you combined the superior action of football with the superior lack of inaction in soccer, that sport would take over the world.



Am I nuts? Should we eliminate the huddle?
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:13 PM   #2
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Momentum=force times velocity. Getting drilled by a 260 pounder running a 4.58 is every bit as ruinous, if not more so, than getting pancaked by a Wilfork.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:14 PM   #3
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A non-stop, no huddle with Alex Smith:

Yeah, let's get that boy to the IR asap!
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:15 PM   #4
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We need to tire these guys out ASAP.


I say 10 seconds on the clock
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:16 PM   #5
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A non-stop, no huddle with Alex Smith:

Yeah, let's get that boy to the IR asap!
I didn't see your "ASAP" until now. Sorry I Q'd your abbreviation
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:16 PM   #6
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Yeah, you're nuts. NFL football is all about violent collisions.

I'm all for making the game as safe as it can be, but I really don't give a shit what the rest of the world thinks.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:18 PM   #7
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Momentum=force times velocity. Getting drilled by a 260 pounder running a 4.58 is every bit as ruinous, if not more so, than getting pancaked by a Wilfork.
Right, but you're slowing down the players as well. They don't get to recover between plays. They don't get to sub.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:18 PM   #8
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Would football be better if huddling was eliminated by reducing the play clock to 20 seconds?

Am I crazy to think that NFL teams shouldn't need to huddle? No other sport does it. NBA players don't draw up a play after every change of possession. It's boring as shit. It slows the game down. It's a complete waste of time.

Two reasons that it could actually happen.

1. The league is so worried about concussions that they might want to see the players get smaller. 325 pound D-Lineman won't exist. This could reduce the force in the collissions and reduce concussions.

2. The league is dying to figure out how to get more global appeal. The rest of the world loves soccer because it's a continuous game. When they see football, they get bored. It's funny because Americans think soccer is too boring because there isn't as much action, and they think football is boring because there's too much inaction. If you combined the superior action of football with the superior lack of inaction in soccer, that sport would take over the world.



Am I nuts? Should we eliminate the huddle?
Sounds like it could be appealing, but what is the relation of huddles to #1 - concussions and smaller players?

Actually, reducing the play clock to 20 seconds would mean more plays, and therefore likely more injuries/concussions.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:20 PM   #9
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I say 10 seconds on the clock
Eh, great minds and all...
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:21 PM   #10
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Why not? I'm betting the Axl Reid "Deer in Headlights"-offense would be spec-****ing-tacular!
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:23 PM   #11
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Sounds like it could be appealing, but what is the relation of huddles to #1 - concussions and smaller players?

Actually, reducing the play clock to 20 seconds would mean more plays, and therefore likely more injuries/concussions.
You'd shorten the game. You could have shorter quarters.

Huddling gives players time to catch their breath between plays. If you can't catch your breath, you are going to need to focus more on endurance and less on explosion. Smaller, faster, more in shape athletes will dominate the game.
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Are you trying to compare NBA plays to NFL plays?

And plus, without the huddles, how are QBs supposed to communicate with the WRs to tell them what to run? Can't go to each of them or else that would take up more time than the actual huddle.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:45 PM   #13
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You'd shorten the game. You could have shorter quarters.

Huddling gives players time to catch their breath between plays. If you can't catch your breath, you are going to need to focus more on endurance and less on explosion. Smaller, faster, more in shape athletes will dominate the game.
I suppose, but not sure it would make a huge difference.

Shortening the game, shorter quarters--yeah, now you're getting a bit nutty. I know this is just a "what if?" exercise, but the league would never go for that. Shorter game = less ads = less money
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Are you trying to compare NBA plays to NFL plays?

And plus, without the huddles, how are QBs supposed to communicate with the WRs to tell them what to run? Can't go to each of them or else that would take up more time than the actual huddle.
We already have dozens of examples in college and pro football of successful ways to operate an offense without a huddle. Sign boards, hand signals, vocal audibles...they all work.
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