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Old 06-21-2013, 10:09 PM  
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Would football be better if huddling was eliminated by reducing the play clock to 20 seconds?

Am I crazy to think that NFL teams shouldn't need to huddle? No other sport does it. NBA players don't draw up a play after every change of possession. It's boring as shit. It slows the game down. It's a complete waste of time.

Two reasons that it could actually happen.

1. The league is so worried about concussions that they might want to see the players get smaller. 325 pound D-Lineman won't exist. This could reduce the force in the collissions and reduce concussions.

2. The league is dying to figure out how to get more global appeal. The rest of the world loves soccer because it's a continuous game. When they see football, they get bored. It's funny because Americans think soccer is too boring because there isn't as much action, and they think football is boring because there's too much inaction. If you combined the superior action of football with the superior lack of inaction in soccer, that sport would take over the world.



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Old 06-22-2013, 02:40 AM   #31
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Would football be better if huddling was eliminated by reducing the play clock to 20 seconds?

Am I crazy to think that NFL teams shouldn't need to huddle? No other sport does it. NBA players don't draw up a play after every change of possession. It's boring as shit. It slows the game down. It's a complete waste of time.

Two reasons that it could actually happen.

1. The league is so worried about concussions that they might want to see the players get smaller. 325 pound D-Lineman won't exist. This could reduce the force in the collissions and reduce concussions.

2. The league is dying to figure out how to get more global appeal. The rest of the world loves soccer because it's a continuous game. When they see football, they get bored. It's funny because Americans think soccer is too boring because there isn't as much action, and they think football is boring because there's too much inaction. If you combined the superior action of football with the superior lack of inaction in soccer, that sport would take over the world.



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Yeah, you're nuts.

Football is a methodic, intentional sport. Possessions are guaranteed, and with 22 players on the field at any one time, you're going to need time to coordinate with them.

On top of that, the NFL is a business. Which you seem to completely forget in this case. If they took time away from the clock, they drastically reduce ad revenues in their network deals, concessions sales at the game, and there's absolutely no corroboration supporting the idea that a faster, smaller defense would lead to less concussions.

If anything, the guys giving the concussions in this league are largely the smaller frame guys. Safeties, Linebackers, Corners, Running Backs, etc.

You don't really see a lot of Centers and Defensive Tackles handing out concussions as frequently.
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Old 06-22-2013, 05:58 AM   #32
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:44 AM   #33
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Would football be better if huddling was eliminated by reducing the play clock to 20 seconds?

Am I crazy to think that NFL teams shouldn't need to huddle? No other sport does it. NBA players don't draw up a play after every change of possession. It's boring as shit. It slows the game down. It's a complete waste of time.

Two reasons that it could actually happen.

1. The league is so worried about concussions that they might want to see the players get smaller. 325 pound D-Lineman won't exist. This could reduce the force in the collissions and reduce concussions.

2. The league is dying to figure out how to get more global appeal. The rest of the world loves soccer because it's a continuous game. When they see football, they get bored. It's funny because Americans think soccer is too boring because there isn't as much action, and they think football is boring because there's too much inaction. If you combined the superior action of football with the superior lack of inaction in soccer, that sport would take over the world.



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The rest of the world loves soccer because they grew up watching and playing soccer, it's cheap to play, and you can play soccer almost anywhere there's open space. To claim that soccer is internationally liked because of its non-stop action is beyond stupid. Every time the ball is kicked out of bounds play stops (this can happen several times within a minute of play), setting up a corner kick stops play, and any time one of these Euro trash douchebags falls down after being slightly touched there is a stop in play.

Football doesn't necessarily need a huddle, but it does require a significant amount of time between plays. The line of scrimmage itself dictates this. "Hey, Brandon Flowers, you just sprinted 70 yards covering Calvin Johnson on a deep fly pattern, you jumped up and knocked the ball down, and fell flat on your back after making the play. Now get your ass up and sprint back to the line if scrimmage because there is a another play in 20 seconds. Oh, and while your sprinting back to the line make sure to get the next defensive play from the sideline." You'd have to have rosters of 100 players to keep up with that pace.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:01 AM   #34
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The rest of the world loves soccer because they grew up watching and playing soccer, it's cheap to play, and you can play soccer almost anywhere there's open space. To claim that soccer is internationally liked because of its non-stop action is beyond stupid. Every time the ball is kicked out of bounds play stops (this can happen several times within a minute of play), setting up a corner kick stops play, and any time one of these Euro trash douchebags falls down after being slightly touched there is a stop in play.

Football doesn't necessarily need a huddle, but it does require a significant amount of time between plays. The line of scrimmage itself dictates this. "Hey, Brandon Flowers, you just sprinted 70 yards covering Calvin Johnson on a deep fly pattern, you jumped up and knocked the ball down, and fell flat on your back after making the play. Now get your ass up and sprint back to the line if scrimmage because there is a another play in 20 seconds. Oh, and while your sprinting back to the line make sure to get the next defensive play from the sideline." You'd have to have rosters of 100 players to keep up with that pace.
If hockey players can make entire line changes while the plays are going on, I'm pretty sure football players can manage to get lined up. People are acting like there aren't already teams that go no-huddle already. (If you haven't noticed, they tend to be pretty successful, too.)



As for the rest of the world, you act like they still all live in huts. Europe can afford to play football. They've been exposed to it their entire lives. They just don't like it. They've been exposed to basketball, and it's caught on. The constant stopping is what most sports fans in other countries don't like about football.

There's simply no reason that players need to huddle for 30 seconds between plays that last 5 seconds...at least not every time. Let the huddle after first downs or something. 120 huddles per game is overkill.
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:20 AM   #35
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If hockey players can make entire line changes while the plays are going on, I'm pretty sure football players can manage to get lined up. People are acting like there aren't already teams that go no-huddle already. (If you haven't noticed, they tend to be pretty successful, too.)



As for the rest of the world, you act like they still all live in huts. Europe can afford to play football. They've been exposed to it their entire lives. They just don't like it. They've been exposed to basketball, and it's caught on. The constant stopping is what most sports fans in other countries don't like about football.

There's simply no reason that players need to huddle for 30 seconds between plays that last 5 seconds...at least not every time. Let the huddle after first downs or something. 120 huddles per game is overkill.
I said that the huddle might not be necessary, but the time between plays is. Even the teams that run a no huddle extensively use a significant portion of the play clock before they snap the ball. The no-huddle is used as a strategic tactic to stop the defense from substituting and to allow the offense to see how the defense is lining up and possibly audible to another play to take advantage of the defensive alignment.

Have you ever played football?
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Old 06-22-2013, 07:37 AM   #37
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It isn't broke, stop trying to fix it.
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Because that would make it special. Look what it did for the Olympics.

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I would prefer that...Roger isn't going to let that happen, though.
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