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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 06-25-2013, 12:24 PM   #4351
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I still don't understand how you guys can make definitive judgements about something that you didn't see.


The media needs to be shot in the head for how they have tried to manipulate this story, but you guys have taken their bait 110%.
I read the police report. You think there is some piece of compelling evidence that we don;t know about? Potentially, but the basic facts are known.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #4352
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I'd say the fact that is relevant is that self defense takes into account that you first took advantage of every opportunity to flee. He was told by police not to pursue. In my eyes, he was the one who provoked the attack, Martin was the one who used self defense, and Zimmerman happened to come out on top as a murderer.
That's basically the way I see it.

Both sides could have done more to defuse the situation, but at the end of the day, Zimmerman could have prevented the entire debacle had he not been an over zealous, wanna-be superhero. He was the aggressor in my eyes.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:52 PM   #4353
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This was a wanna be vigilante out looking for someone.
Unfortunately, this is pure opinion.

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The same people who support freedom and personal rights suddenly don't suppert the right to not be stopped and questioned for no reason by some vigilante?
We support personal rights and freedom from govt. Z was not the govt. And the vigilante smear is opinion. One not based on enough facts.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:16 PM   #4354
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Unfortunately, this is pure opinion.



We support personal rights and freedom from govt. Z was not the govt. And the vigilante smear is opinion. One not based on enough facts.


So its okay to assume trevon was a thug as some have called him but not okay to call Zimmerman a vigilante ? Im doubtful you take the same stance when someone calls trecon a thug.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:18 PM   #4355
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It's obviously hypothetical tangent from what actually happened in Florida. I have answered this same question between the 2 of you 3 times now. Your different add-ons don't change how I tell my kids to act in public. You treat your elders with respect. Had Martin done that, there is a better than good chance he's alive today.

Either way that doesn't change the fact that Martin attacked the guy and bashing Zimmerman's head into the ground and got shot for it.
Are you serious? "Add ons?" You answered your own hypothetical question and not my question which directly mirrored the situation.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:19 PM   #4356
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That's basically the way I see it.

Both sides could have done more to defuse the situation, but at the end of the day, Zimmerman could have prevented the entire debacle had he not been an over zealous, wanna-be superhero. He was the aggressor in my eyes.
Exactly.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:05 PM   #4357
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What message was that? I've never neg repped anyone, you ****ing liar.

I'm sure other blacks love having you represent them on here. You're a liar and a wannabe thug.
Yep I just went in and looked back to Jan 1st and no rep from you, good or bad left for Thatguy, he's full of shit.
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Yep I just went in and looked back to Jan 1st and no rep from you, good or bad left for Thatguy, he's full of shit.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:10 PM   #4359
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Lmao. Talk about ironic considering the messages you leave me when you neg rep me five times a day.
He is hitting you with neg rep 5 times a day? Bullshit again, I went back to Jan 1st and no rep from him to you, good or bad. Dude what color is the sky in your world?
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Again...Martin did not know Zimmerman was armed. As for my kid...I expect that they treat their elders with respect at all times.
How do you know that? Especially given Zimmerman's story that he reached for his cell phone before getting popped.

Zimmerman was either a complete and utter moron that night, or he was looking for a fight. Either point of view shouldn't be excused.
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He is hitting you with neg rep 5 times a day? Bullshit again, I went back to Jan 1st and no rep from him to you, good or bad. Dude what color is the sky in your world?
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:12 PM   #4362
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How do you know that? Especially given Zimmerman's story that he reached for his cell phone before getting popped.

Zimmerman was either a complete and utter moron that night, or he was looking for a fight. Either point of view shouldn't be excused.
Again...if Martin noticed he had a firearm and ran, then came back to fight Zimmerman knowing he had a firearm....well that wouldn't make sense now would it?
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It's obviously hypothetical tangent from what actually happened in Florida. I have answered this same question between the 2 of you 3 times now. Your different add-ons don't change how I tell my kids to act in public. You treat your elders with respect. Had Martin done that, there is a better than good chance he's alive today.

Either way that doesn't change the fact that Martin attacked the guy and bashing Zimmerman's head into the ground and got shot for it.
I really hope you don't teach your kids to give their address to strange men at night. Seriously.

There's respect, and there's stupidity. Teaching your kids that it's okay to give strange men their address just because they're "elders" is almost the stupidest defense I've heard for Zimmerman.
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He's not random guy in this context. He's the captain of the neighborhood watch in a multi-ethnic gated community.


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