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Old 07-03-2013, 09:17 AM  
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Obamacare is postponed one year for...

...large corporations.

ObamaCare is still going into effect in 2014, but one key component of it is being temporarily shelved. The White House today postponed by one year a rule requiring employers to either provide coverage to employees or face hefty fines, reports the Wall Street Journal. The rule will take effect in 2015, instead of 2014...

Link: http://www.newser.com/story/170420/b...-one-year.html

It is better to duck the rising premium during the election year. Smart move!
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:44 AM   #151
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**** Democrats, **** Repubicans, and **** you for grouping me in with other blind idiots.
When Christie wins the Presidency here in 2016, he'll push through legislation in Congress similarly, and your silence/indifference will return, on cue.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:46 AM   #152
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That's all fine and good, but that's not the argument being made by LiveStream.

The argument was that Obamacare polls badly, when in fact awareness of it hardly extends beyond the individual mandate.

The mandate polls terribly, but everything it pays for polls very well, with majorities across the board.
If it is so great & polls so god damn well. Why wait for 2015?
It polls well with broke dick lazy none working people like you.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:50 AM   #153
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What does hotlesbians.com have to do with this? I was referring to your 8 out of 10 claim.
Why is it only on the Internet that its Hot Lesbians. When they show all the Lesbians celebrating and getting married after the SCOTUS ruling they all look like Chaz Bono? Its another liberal lie!
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #154
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That's all fine and good, but that's not the argument being made by LiveStream.

The argument was that Obamacare polls badly, when in fact awareness of it hardly extends beyond the individual mandate.

The mandate polls terribly, but everything it pays for polls very well, with majorities across the board.
Which again doesn't matter. If you poll against the mandate but you are for all the "goodies" then you are still 100% against Obamacare. Unless you have a section of Obamacare that can exist without the mandate then you have an exception.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #155
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If it is so great & polls so god damn well. Why wait for 2015?
Because this is a shit part of the law that needs to be fixed.

Delay it as long as you can somehow, and hope against hope that the GOP will agree to fix it.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:51 AM   #156
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Which again doesn't matter. If you poll against the mandate but you are for all the "goodies" then you are still 100% against Obamacare.
That's not how math works.

If I'm for some parts of a bill, and against other parts of it, I'm partially against it, not 100% against it.
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Old 07-04-2013, 11:57 AM   #157
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When Christie wins the Presidency here in 2016, he'll push through legislation in Congress similarly, and your silence/indifference will return, on cue.
Nice try.


How many times have I stated in multiple threads that the Democrats are using the same avenues that the Republicans have abused for decades?

You have bashed heads with the hardcore Pubs on this site so much you can't spot someone who is not extreme left/right.

Anyway, I don't need to explain myself any further because it would just be a waste of both our time.
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:20 PM   #158
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If only the Dems had read the bill....

Actually if only the Dems cared enough to read the bill...
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:20 PM   #159
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That's not how math works.

If I'm for some parts of a bill, and against other parts of it, I'm partially against it, not 100% against it.
That isn't how REALITY works. If the bill can't exist without the part people are against then they are against the bill.

If you polled people and said "are you for these things but ONLY IF you also have to accept the individual mandate" then you'd have an accurate poll.

You've been doing so well lately don't backslide into stupid on me now!
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:29 PM   #160
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:36 PM   #161
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If only the Dems had read the bill....

Actually if only the Dems cared enough to read the bill...
Say the Democrats put up a bill today saying "let's repeal the employer mandate and replace it with a drastically less damaging solution for employers, such as having to provide health insurance to their employees on a per capita basis rather than an arbitrary 50+ employees limit."

You tell me, Pete: What percentage of Democrats vote for that, and what percentage of Republicans vote for it?

My guess, 90+% of Democrats vote for it. 0% of Republicans vote for it.

You?
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:00 PM   #162
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Say the Democrats put up a bill today saying "let's repeal the employer mandate and replace it with a drastically less damaging solution for employers, such as having to provide health insurance to their employees on a per capita basis rather than an arbitrary 50+ employees limit."

You tell me, Pete: What percentage of Democrats vote for that, and what percentage of Republicans vote for it?

My guess, 90+% of Democrats vote for it. 0% of Republicans vote for it.

You?
You can try this all you want. All you are doing is trying to cover up the fact the Dems ****ed themselves and you want to blame it on someone other than the party that needs to be blamed.

The question to be asked is why was this done in the first place? Oh yea!!! NOBODY READ THE ****ING BILL!!!!!
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:57 PM   #163
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You can try this all you want.
I would bet that 90+% of Democrats vote for it, and 0% of Republicans vote for it.

Do you disagree?

If you don't disagree, then what are we even talking about here.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:07 PM   #164
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I would bet that 90+% of Democrats vote for it, and 0% of Republicans vote for it.

Do you disagree?

If you don't disagree, then what are we even talking about here.
we're talking about you dreaming up some hypothetical to justify blaming Repubs for a bill they didn't cast 1 vote for.
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Old 07-04-2013, 10:23 PM   #165
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we're talking about you dreaming up some hypothetical to justify blaming Repubs for a bill they didn't cast 1 vote for.
Your total refusal to entertain the question speaks volumes.

Exposed.
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