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Old 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM  
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Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:09 AM   #31
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That's not a plan. Just drafting a QB at one regardless of who isn't a plan.
The irony is Smith is rated higher than several QB's that has we drafted CP would be super happy with.

For example most of CP believes we would be better off with Josh Freeman who is ranked lower than Smith, but hey it would still be better because you know, we would have drafted him.

Worse QB that you daft > better QB you trade for/ CP

The reality is in the end it doesn't matter as long as you have the best possible option available to you as your QB and that's what Smith is at this time.

Had we drafted Smith CP would think he was good enough.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:30 AM   #32
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #33
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I like how Jaws ranks him 20th, then proceeds to describe him as if he were the second coming for the entire article.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:35 AM   #34
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That's a pretty fair ranking and one I agree with completely.

The issue with Alex Smith is not just the Chiefs not drafting a QB this year... it's the price they paid making it difficult to draft a QB next year as well. And that's assuming they don't tether themselves to Alex Smith for more than just the two years they have him.

The Chiefs gave up a LOT to be mediocre/respectable this season. Yes, it's nice that Andy Reid won't tie himself to Smith if he is just OK and will move on after two seasons if necessary... but if that ends up being the case, the Chiefs surrendered FAR too much compensation for him.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:38 AM   #35
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He talks about Smith & 9ers using 3 TE formations. Are the Chiefs going duct tape bubble wrap around Tony Moeaki this year so he can play?
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:40 AM   #36
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He talks about Smith & 9ers using 3 TE formations. Are the Chiefs going duct tape bubble wrap around Tony Moeaki this year so he can play?
The genie will help with that...



Also, I imagine 3 TE formations are a lot more effective/viable when you have a freak like Vernon Davis at one of those spots. Last I checked, the Chiefs were missing that type of guy.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:43 AM   #37
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Alright, so Joe Flacco should be next on this list since some of our resident CP geniuses think Flacco = Smith.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:43 AM   #38
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He talks about Smith & 9ers using 3 TE formations. Are the Chiefs going duct tape bubble wrap around Tony Moeaki this year so he can play?
I'm interested to see what we have in Demetrius Harris.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:49 AM   #40
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I'm interested to see what we have in Demetrius Harris.
Yes, the two undrafted FAs will save the Chiefs! Chances are excellent.

Step 1: Sign Tyler Bray
Step 2: Sign Demtrius Harris
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:55 AM   #41
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I like how Jaws ranks him 20th, then proceeds to describe him as if he were the second coming for the entire article.
I agree. Jaws heaps alot of praise for a 20. I have my hopes up, too. The rating sounds right ,IMO.
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Yes, the two undrafted FAs will save the Chiefs! Chances are excellent.

Step 1: Sign Tyler Bray
Step 2: Sign Demtrius Harris
Step 3: Profit (Win Super Bowl!)
I don't care where they come from. You'd have been more behind them if we took Bray in the 3rd and Harris in the 5th or something. Dumb.
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Yes, the two undrafted FAs will save the Chiefs! Chances are excellent.

Step 1: Sign Tyler Bray
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Step 3: Profit (Win Super Bowl!)
Who said anything about them saving the Chiefs? I think the have potential. But I'm crazy, right? Undrafted players just can't make it in the NFL.
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I don't care where they come from. You'd have been more behind them if we took Bray in the 3rd and Harris in the 5th or something. Dumb.
Not at all the case.

I just think it's funny how many hopes so many are pinning on a couple of UDFA, whose rate of success/impact in the NFL is incredibly low.
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