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Old 07-06-2013, 01:02 PM  
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"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

This is a new campaign that the American Medical Association actually declared obesity a disease! Billboards with this phrase are popping up around the country.

I've worked out for 10 years straight and I definitely sacrifice eating shit food even though I enjoy it just as much as the next guy. THIS IS A DECISION I HAVE CONSCIOUSLY MADE.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/da...n-disease.html

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Old 07-06-2013, 02:40 PM   #31
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Lazy is not a disease. No one should be in disability because they are a fatass.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:40 PM   #32
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It's way more complicated than everyone being "soft" or lazy. And it has as much to do with the kind of food we eat as the amount. Everything is processed and loaded with sugar and corn syrup. Add to that the fact that the majority of us work indoor jobs where we spend 10 hours a day on our asses in front of computer screens and it's pretty easy to see what the end result will be.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:41 PM   #33
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It's pretty much the same as any addiction, which is a disease.

The only difference is that we will no longer be able to make fun of fat people since it is not their fault.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:41 PM   #34
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Sorry but you are conflating two different things. Obesity can be a choice and still be a disease. If a smoker gets lung cancer, is it not a disease in their case because they chose to smoke? Does someone who tans everyday and gets skin cancer not have a disease? Why is Type 2 Diabetes, which is the result of obesity, a disease but obesity isn't?

I don't know whether obesity should be classified as a disease or not, I just think your argument is horseshit.
Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

This is the same line of shit they pull with alcoholism. Alcoholism is not a disease. It's a self inflicted condition created by the choices that person has made. Obesity is a self inflicted condition that raises your chance of all kinds of diseases, but people are not simply 'stricken' with obesity unless they have a legit medical condition (as some do).
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:42 PM   #35
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It's pretty much the same as any addiction, which is a disease.

The only difference is that we will no longer be able to make fun of fat people since it is not their fault.
No, it's not.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:44 PM   #36
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I don't know whether obesity should be classified as a disease or not, I just think your argument is horseshit.
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Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).
See above. Obesity is a condition, not a disease. Obesity leads to other diseases.

Perfectly said, WhiteWhale.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:45 PM   #37
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Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

This is the same line of shit they pull with alcoholism. Alcoholism is not a disease. It's a self inflicted condition created by the choices that person has made. Obesity is a self inflicted condition that raises your chance of all kinds of diseases, but people are not simply 'stricken' with obesity unless they have a legit medical condition (as some do).
This is why I am not sure that it is a disease. If you take the line that addiction is a disease, then you could even say that obesity is just a symptom. My point is that you can't argue that something isn't a disease because it is the result of choice.
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This is so that people that have a weight condition can get coverage under the affordable care act with no pre-existing.
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Over-eating causes obesity (a condition) which causes diseases (like heart disease and diabetes).

This is the same line of shit they pull with alcoholism. Alcoholism is not a disease. It's a self inflicted condition created by the choices that person has made. Obesity is a self inflicted condition that raises your chance of all kinds of diseases, but people are not simply 'stricken' with obesity unless they have a legit medical condition (as some do).
Not true. I know a lot of people that over eat but are not over weight. I know a lot of people that watch what they eat and are very careful because they can gain weight easily. There are too many variables to say that.
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Not true. I know a lot of people that over eat but are not over weight. I know a lot of people that watch what they eat and are very careful because they can gain weight easily. There are too many variables to say that.
Sorry but this is an excuse people make. Metabolism doesn't have nearly the impact on weight that people imagine, but the effect that it does have can be boosted by exercising. If you have a poor metabolism, you can change that.

Weight loss/gain really isn't some mystery, its physics. Calories in, calories out. Your body isn't cheating you, but you might be underestimating how much you eat or overestimating the amount of calories you are burning.
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Not true. I know a lot of people that over eat but are not over weight. I know a lot of people that watch what they eat and are very careful because they can gain weight easily. There are too many variables to say that.
If you put in more than you take out, then you are over-eating. I 'over-eat' if one simply looks at volume (4000+ calories per day) but I also am very active and that means I require more calories to function.

Nobody can 'over-eat' and not get fat... because they are obviously burning more calories than they are putting in their bodies. Genetics plays a role, but that doesn't mean people are diseased because some food causes them to gain weight faster than myself. IF that's the case all mexicans are diseased because a lot of american style foods (with lots of cheese) makes them fat. I think that's probably bullshit.

Pay attention to your body and how it reacts to certain foods.
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Not true. I know a lot of people that over eat but are not over weight. I know a lot of people that watch what they eat and are very careful because they can gain weight easily. There are too many variables to say that.
I once at 5,000 calories a day when I was Olympic lifting and didn't gain a single pound. I weighed 190lbs at the time, not fat. I was "over eating" like a mother ****er, fast food almost every night just to get calories.

I didn't gain a single pound so technically I was not over-eating like you would claim. Metabolism is influenced by exercise. Want to eat what you currently are but not gain weight...burn more calories and increase your resting metabolism.

The people who you say are over-eating probably have increased their metabolism and thus get to eat more than your fat/sedentary friends who watch what they eat.
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