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Old 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM  
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Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

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Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:21 PM   #91
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The problem with Cam Newton is the lack of maturity and leadership.
Eh, he's young. He's working on improving his attitude issues this off season. But even with those issues, he's still one of the most productive QBs in NFL history through their first two years. If he improves, he'll be a legit top 3 QB.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:22 PM   #92
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Oookay I wouldn't call everyone on that list reasonable about anything Alex Smith.

Reasonable is not bashing the shit out of everything. Reasonable is this is not what I wanted but it was the best option at the time. We will have to move on again quickly from another QB definitely sucks but I prefer this to another year of Cassel ****ing everything up.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:36 PM   #93
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Oookay I wouldn't call everyone on that list reasonable about anything Alex Smith.

Reasonable is not bashing the shit out of everything. Reasonable is this is not what I wanted but it was the best option at the time. We will have to move on again quickly from another QB definitely sucks but I prefer this to another year of Cassel ****ing everything up.
True Alex Smith was pretty much the only option if we are trying to win right away. Another year of Matt Cassel would be like eating a shit sandwich, and a year of Alex Smith is like eating a Taco Bell Bean and Cheese Burrito that has been left out in the sun in August in El Paso for a couple days. It still sucks, but it definitely is not like eating a pure shit sandwich.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:45 PM   #94
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Every year. Every friggen offseason some tard here on the planet makes this type of tardtastic claim about how great your team is and it's just oh-so close to dominating.

hoist the lombardi now ladies, 'cause this is as good as it's gonna get for you.
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Every year. Every friggen offseason some tard here on the planet makes this type of tardtastic claim about how great your team is and it's just oh-so close to dominating.

hoist the lombardi now ladies, 'cause this is as good as it's gonna get for you.
Lol, don't paint with too big a brush. This is just one retard Chiefs fan you are pointing out, most of us know that 5 wins (total) about all we are going to get with no QB.
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Lol, don't paint with too big a brush. This is just one retard Chiefs fan you are pointing out, most of us know that 5 wins (total) about all we are going to get with no QB.
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Lol, don't paint with too big a brush. This is just one retard Chiefs fan you are pointing out, most of us know that 5 wins (total) about all we are going to get with no QB.
No way we are that low in wins this year...
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Every year. Every friggen offseason some tard here on the planet makes this type of tardtastic claim about how great your team is and it's just oh-so close to dominating.

hoist the lombardi now ladies, 'cause this is as good as it's gonna get for you.
Uh. It's a pretty standard feeling around the league dumb****. It's really not much of a stretch anyway. Your team is a joke without Manning.
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Lol, don't paint with too big a brush. This is just one retard Chiefs fan you are pointing out, most of us know that 5 wins (total) about all we are going to get with no QB.
You are calling me out Who the **** are you?
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Oookay I wouldn't call everyone on that list reasonable about anything Alex Smith.

Reasonable is not bashing the shit out of everything. Reasonable is this is not what I wanted but it was the best option at the time. We will have to move on again quickly from another QB definitely sucks but I prefer this to another year of Cassel ****ing everything up.
That's your definition of reasonable.

Reasonable does NOT mean accepting "best option at this time" or saying "I prefer this to another bad year."

I will bash the shit out of the decision to trade for Alex Smith because they paid a huge price for limited upside. Sure, they'll be better in 2013 than they would have been if they'd acquired a cheaper (in terms of trade cost) option, but the difference is likely 5-6 wins vs. 7-9. BFD.

Reasonable is saying you disagree and making an attempt to explain it.
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Uh. It's a pretty standard feeling around the league dumb****. It's really not much of a stretch anyway. Your team is a joke without Manning.
lol, you mean the probowl? Whatever, we are gonna see soon enough which team is a contender and which one is a pretender.
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Every year. Every friggen offseason some tard here on the planet makes this type of tardtastic claim about how great your team is and it's just oh-so close to dominating.

hoist the lombardi now ladies, 'cause this is as good as it's gonna get for you.
You think John Fox is better than Andy Reid?

You think the Broncos are more talented than the Chiefs? Want to do position by position comparisons?
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You think John Fox is better than Andy Reid?

You think the Broncos are more talented than the Chiefs? Want to do position by position comparisons?
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Yes way. Alex Smith is crap and hasn't proven anything really in the NFL, Andy Reid's last few teams have been huge underachievers and his system in my opinion has become antiquated in today's NFL, and we have a new head coach, GM, and QB. How do you see more than 5 wins? I might push 6 but that seems optimistic. I'd love to eat my words and see us with at least 8 wins, but I'm not going to get my hopes up, **** no. Just a reminder, what does 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9, 2-12 mean to you?
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Cam has 8000 yards, 1400 yards rushing, 62 total touchdowns and 29 INTs.

His first two years are better than just about every QB in the league.
He has not been, to this point, better than any of the QBs named. If you want to point to the numbers, look at all of them. The numbers show it.
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