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Old 07-06-2013, 01:02 PM  
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"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

This is a new campaign that the American Medical Association actually declared obesity a disease! Billboards with this phrase are popping up around the country.

I've worked out for 10 years straight and I definitely sacrifice eating shit food even though I enjoy it just as much as the next guy. THIS IS A DECISION I HAVE CONSCIOUSLY MADE.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/da...n-disease.html

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Old 07-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #91
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Who performs this checkup? What do they check?
Bloodwork, blood pressure, weight, like a normal physical. Bloodwork isn't every time, basically as long as you stay healthy the insurance gets cheaper.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:21 PM   #92
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So you like guys with their shirt off?

I knew it.
Yea man, really sucks to have drive/consistency in working out and being proud of your appearance.

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They get addicted to alcohol, food, sex, whatever because they are going through DEPRESSION.

That is the real problem.
First smart thing you have said, so we can agree that obesity it self is NOT a disease? Depression is real and is a disease, no arguments there. However, there is also a large portion that continues to look for "disease" when in fact people just aren't mentally tough enough to make positive changes in their lives because it IS hard to do. Depression is the cause of many problems with weight but still only factors in a small percentage of those who are overweight.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:26 PM   #93
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Narcissism isn't a disease.

But it can lead to douchebaggery.
I love how fat people point the finger of narcissism for those who care about their appearance. Like that is some sort of bad thing. I like working out but there are plenty of days I would like to skip the gym, but I don't. I have honestly never been depressed a day in my life and I think working out consistently plays a large role in that and the fact I am comfortable with myself, inside and out.

Always enough haters to go around I suppose. Thanks Dave!
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:48 PM   #94
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So Lewdog......honest question here:

You're still young, and able to easily keep the weight off because your metabolism works for you instead of against you. Think you will still have that same drive 23 years down the road?
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #95
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So Lewdog......honest question here:

You're still young, and able to easily keep the weight off because your metabolism works for you instead of against you. Think you will still have that same drive 23 years down the road?
Likely not at all. I will definitely be taking the calories down as I age. I have adjusted them quite a bit even here in my late 20's compared to when I was lifting at 20-21. I used to be able to eat anything and gain weight slowly if at all. I can't do that anymore. However, I lift weights 99% harder than most people and have a decent amount of muscle mass which burns more resting calories than anything else you can do. Realistically, many weighlifters have an easier time putting on muscle mass in their late 20's and early 30's, simply because they can eat less to get the calories surplus that is required to put on muscle.

This isn't rocket science. As your body changes, you adjust your calories to meet you goal. Want to gain weight (like I do every winter), eat more. Want to lose more (like I am now), eat less. Keep constantly exercising throughout.
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Old 07-06-2013, 10:57 PM   #96
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This isn't rocket science. As your body changes, you adjust your calories to meet you goal. Want to gain weight (like I do every winter), eat more. Want to lose more (like I am now), eat less. Keep constantly exercising throughout.

Ground breaking info that a lot of people do not put into practice.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:05 PM   #97
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I love how fat people point the finger of narcissism for those who care about their appearance. Like that is some sort of bad thing. I like working out but there are plenty of days I would like to skip the gym, but I don't. I have honestly never been depressed a day in my life and I think working out consistently plays a large role in that and the fact I am comfortable with myself, inside and out.

Always enough haters to go around I suppose. Thanks Dave!
I was just being funny. Thought that was obvious. Way to be a bitch about it though.
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Old 07-06-2013, 11:07 PM   #98
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I was just being funny. Thought that was obvious. Way to be a bitch about it though.
I love you too.

Let me know when you want me to write you a workout/diet plan.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:04 AM   #99
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So Lewdog......honest question here:

You're still young, and able to easily keep the weight off because your metabolism works for you instead of against you. Think you will still have that same drive 23 years down the road?
Metabolism slows because you stop doing stuff. That's the largest component. Slowdown purely because of age isn't really that big of a deal.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:35 AM   #100
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This thread, of course, devolves into Gym Rats versus Regular Guys.

I can't wait to see the current Gym Rats in 20 years when they've spent the overwhelming majority of that time behind a desk 40 hours a week, dealt with infants, their wives and hormones, more work, four birthday parties every weekend, etc.

Let's see how you feel about hitting the gym when you've worked eight hours a day, then wake up six times a night to take care of your baby, then deal with weekends filled with more kids.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:54 AM   #101
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The mistake that we all make in discussions like this is thinking that our own personal experience reflects how it is for everyone.
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:56 AM   #102
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And for most, that means death.

How many 60 yr old fat people do you know?
Lots. Tons. 70 or even 80 as well.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:11 AM   #103
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Sigh. Of course obesity is not a disease. It is a series of bad choices, compounded by more bad choices that lead to a feeling of entrapment and hopelessness. Those of you who have never experienced it tend to be the ones casting the largest stones in this thread.

I'll give you a pass though, because both of you have tried to help me out over the years. Anyone else though that thinks you're douches have every right too, because you're laying down some gauntlet about something you have ZERO understanding of.

In the meantime though, Clay, Buck, Saulbadguy, myself, and others I'm forgetting are living proof that through hard work, dedication, will, and desire, those chains can be broken. However, it takes a level of resolve to lose over 100lbs that the vast majority of this country just doesn't have in order to accomplish those results. I won't judge them. And shame on you for judging them if you've never walked a mile in their shoes.

It's pretty easy to stack accomplishment on top of accomplishment. Try stacking some accomplishment on top of years of sheer failure. Then get back to me.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:14 AM   #104
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This thread, of course, devolves into Gym Rats versus Regular Guys.

I can't wait to see the current Gym Rats in 20 years when they've spent the overwhelming majority of that time behind a desk 40 hours a week, dealt with infants, their wives and hormones, more work, four birthday parties every weekend, etc.

Let's see how you feel about hitting the gym when you've worked eight hours a day, then wake up six times a night to take care of your baby, then deal with weekends filled with more kids.
The mistake in the thinking in this thread is that just because you don't have time to go to the gym, you're destined to be fat.

If you can't make it to the gym, then you simply need to eat less in order to be a normal weight.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:16 AM   #105
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Sigh. Of course obesity is not a disease. It is a series of bad choices, compounded by more bad choices that lead to a feeling of entrapment and hopelessness. Those of you who have never experienced it tend to be the ones casting the largest stones in this thread.

I'll give you a pass though, because both of you have tried to help me out over the years. Anyone else though that thinks you're douches have every right too, because you're laying down some gauntlet about something you have ZERO understanding of.

In the meantime though, Clay, Buck, Saulbadguy, myself, and others I'm forgetting are living proof that through hard work, dedication, will, and desire, those chains can be broken. However, it takes a level of resolve to lose over 100lbs that the vast majority of this country just doesn't have in order to accomplish those results. I won't judge them. And shame on you for judging them if you've never walked a mile in their shoes.

It's pretty easy to stack accomplishment on top of accomplishment. Try stacking some accomplishment on top of years of sheer failure. Then get back to me.
Nobody on that list is/was obese.

You already know how I feel about this ..people who ARE obese are usually stuffing down pain..I feel for them..stuck in a moment...
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