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Old 07-06-2013, 01:02 PM  
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"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

This is a new campaign that the American Medical Association actually declared obesity a disease! Billboards with this phrase are popping up around the country.

I've worked out for 10 years straight and I definitely sacrifice eating shit food even though I enjoy it just as much as the next guy. THIS IS A DECISION I HAVE CONSCIOUSLY MADE.

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/da...n-disease.html

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Old 07-07-2013, 01:17 AM   #106
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The mistake in the thinking in this thread is that just because you don't have time to go to the gym, you're destined to be fat.

If you can't make it to the gym, then you simply need to eat less in order to be a normal weight.
....or work with your hands.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:31 AM   #107
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The mistake in the thinking in this thread is that just because you don't have time to go to the gym, you're destined to be fat.

If you can't make it to the gym, then you simply need to eat less in order to be a normal weight.
I eat next to nothing. That doesn't mean that others in the same situation can do the same.

I had a friend here last night that's trained in martial arts once he was four. He's in his mid-30's, owns a business, married,has a five year old and a six month old. With work, kids, more work, etc. it's tough to get to the gym. Is he fat? No. 10 pounds over? Yeah.

But when and where so you find time with all that going on to burn 10? Are you willing to spend time at the gym in lieu of your family? How about you miss a huge deal because you couldn't answer your cellphone midday because you were in the sauna?

It's a Catch-22.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:38 AM   #108
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But when and where so you find time with all that going on to burn 10? Are you willing to spend time at the gym in lieu of your family?
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:38 AM   #109
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Nobody on that list is/was obese.

You already know how I feel about this ..people who ARE obese are usually stuffing down pain..I feel for them..stuck in a moment...
You absolutely have it nailed. And I praise you for it, considering you've never been affected by the condition.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:39 AM   #110
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Nobody on that list is/was obese.

You already know how I feel about this ..people who ARE obese are usually stuffing down pain..I feel for them..stuck in a moment...
Well, I'd say I was. At 440lbs I was more than a bit chubby.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:40 AM   #111
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Well, I'd say I was. At 440lbs I was more than a bit chubby.
not when you're 11 feet tall..
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:43 AM   #112
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I eat next to nothing. That doesn't mean that others in the same situation can do the same.

I had a friend here last night that's trained in martial arts once he was four. He's in his mid-30's, owns a business, married,has a five year old and a six month old. With work, kids, more work, etc. it's tough to get to the gym. Is he fat? No. 10 pounds over? Yeah.

But when and where so you find time with all that going on to burn 10? Are you willing to spend time at the gym in lieu of your family? How about you miss a huge deal because you couldn't answer your cellphone midday because you were in the sauna?

It's a Catch-22.
Eat less
I am not trying to judge people; I am by no means a fitness guru

But losing fat isnt some sort of secret
I have never heard of someone getting fat off of a lean meat and salad diet
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:50 AM   #113
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not when you're 11 feet tall..
I love you, dude. /nohomo
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:51 AM   #114
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I eat next to nothing. That doesn't mean that others in the same situation can do the same.

I had a friend here last night that's trained in martial arts once he was four. He's in his mid-30's, owns a business, married,has a five year old and a six month old. With work, kids, more work, etc. it's tough to get to the gym. Is he fat? No. 10 pounds over? Yeah.

But when and where so you find time with all that going on to burn 10? Are you willing to spend time at the gym in lieu of your family? How about you miss a huge deal because you couldn't answer your cellphone midday because you were in the sauna?

It's a Catch-22.
They CAN; they're just unwilling.

Again, you don't need to exercise to burn 10 lbs. You simply need to eat less.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:52 AM   #115
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Stuffing down pain is actually a great analogy. For a lot of folks food is the one joy that is affordable to them that alleviates the pain they suffer in their day to day lives. Everything from marital problems, to work problems, to just being a social pariah in the World. It's a cycle that is very hard to break, and one that is far more a mental issue than just a physical one.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:53 AM   #116
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Old 07-07-2013, 02:00 AM   #117
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It's not a disease lol.


So, body builders and/or fit people are just motivated or infected with some kind of "health disease"?
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:37 AM   #118
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Stuffing down pain is actually a great analogy. For a lot of folks food is the one joy that is affordable to them that alleviates the pain they suffer in their day to day lives. Everything from marital problems, to work problems, to just being a social pariah in the World. It's a cycle that is very hard to break, and one that is far more a mental issue than just a physical one.
I agree that could be part of the issue. I know people overeat to feel better about themselfs. But thats not a disease. It's a mental issue and self confidence issue.

Taking out the very small % that being obese is a true medical issue (thyroid gland etc.) this is complete BS. It is not a disease. No way. No how.

I know I'm eating too much pizza and burgers. I know I should get up off my fat ass and exercise and eat a salad instead of that slab of ribs. How the **** is that a disease?

I understand that Dr.'s are drawing an analogy between obesity and alcoholism.

I know some of you have struggled with over indulgence of alcohol. I was a full fledged drunk for 10 years. I just decided to do something with my life than get drunk every night. I can drink a couple of drinks and stop. From my personal experience I don't see how it happens that one drink and you are back to being a drunk. But, I know its real. Saw too many friends struggle with this scenario. I still don't think its a disease, that someone is powerless against the alcohol.

I smoked cigarettes for 13 years. Quit first time I tried. Others really struggle to quit. It's a hard thing to do. That nicotine gets into your brian stem and won't let your body move on.

Me being fat is my choice. I don't have a disease. Considering my history, I could be HWP if I chose too. And FTR, I have chosen to stop being a fat ass.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:38 AM   #119
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i imagine for some people it is a disease and i also think that certain people are more likely to gain weight than others.

i also think that for a significant % of people it's a decision/excuse/weakness. They like to eat and end up overweight.
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Agree with this.

And while I wouldn't call it a disease, I would say there is a certain amount of addiction that goes hand-in-hand with it.
I don't think it's so much a decision or addiction as just not thinking about it.

Time to eat, here's some food, seems a normal meal, back to work.

The decision is to NOT eat and TO move around more. Sit at a computer, go eat some shit, sit back down at the computer is just too easy a routine.

IMO, there is a distinct qualitative difference between deciding to take a drink or smoke a cig than 'deciding' on too big a lunch.
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But when and where so you find time with all that going on to burn 10? Are you willing to spend time at the gym in lieu of your family? How about you miss a huge deal because you couldn't answer your cellphone midday because you were in the sauna?

It's a Catch-22.
We are talking about people who are obese, not 10 lbs over weight.

Jesus Dane, I thought your reading comprehension was better than that.



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Stuffing down pain is actually a great analogy. For a lot of folks food is the one joy that is affordable to them that alleviates the pain they suffer in their day to day lives. Everything from marital problems, to work problems, to just being a social pariah in the World. It's a cycle that is very hard to break, and one that is far more a mental issue than just a physical one.
You know how I feel about this. Depression and emotional issues ARE real and should be treated. Lumping obesity as a whole into a disease is ridiculous as you already stated.

Again, this isn't me bashing on people who have gone through or are going through tons of issues because I myself haven't ever had to go through any of it. This is about the fact we know exactly what causes obesity, there isn't a magic secret. Can it be the by product of another disease? Sure. Is it largely related to a disease for most of the population? No.
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