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Old 07-06-2013, 01:02 PM  
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"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

This is a new campaign that the American Medical Association actually declared obesity a disease! Billboards with this phrase are popping up around the country.

I've worked out for 10 years straight and I definitely sacrifice eating shit food even though I enjoy it just as much as the next guy. THIS IS A DECISION I HAVE CONSCIOUSLY MADE.

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Old 07-08-2013, 04:01 PM   #256
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:03 PM   #257
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:04 PM   #258
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If you can go from 6'1 350 lbs eating 2800 calories down to 6'1 250 or less in one year with NO exercise at 40+ years old ..... Then good luck with that.


If you happen to actually lose the weight in a year with a 2800 calorie diet without exercising and keep said weight off then I whole heartily say... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

Mind you that there might be VERY few people at the age of 40 that could do that. But for most of us that would be a "Pipe Dream" .

I have lost weight in the past with diets and no exercise when I was 20 years old. I am 6'1.... and back then I went 320 to 220 lbs and I was not proportioned well for that weight.

@ 26 years old I went on a high carb low fat diet, Hit the gym 6 days a week and went from 320 to 255 in 1 year with less than 7% body fat. Proportioned very well.

@ 47 w/diabetes I have gone from 380 lbs to 305 in 2 1/2 years and the only fat I have is around my middle. For me and most people my age dieting alone will get you minimal results and usually with minimal results people go back to what got them there in the first place.....eating anything they want. With exercise and dieting you get more bang for your buck and more return on your investment.


So I'm really not trying to be a dick but if you can take off 100+ pounds with a 2800 calorie a day diet and keep it off at the age of 40+ ....I honestly envy you and anyone that can do that. But I am skeptical so .... good luck with that.
Wait... you were 6'1", 255 lbs and less than 7% body fat????? You would have been a shredded beast.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:10 PM   #259
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:10 PM   #260
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Oatmeal for breakfast, Oatmeal before bedtime.


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I love oatmeal, but it gives me terrible heartburn.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:10 PM   #261
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If you can go from 6'1 350 lbs eating 2800 calories down to 6'1 250 or less in one year with NO exercise at 40+ years old ..... Then good luck with that.


If you happen to actually lose the weight in a year with a 2800 calorie diet without exercising and keep said weight off then I whole heartily say... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

Mind you that there might be VERY few people at the age of 40 that could do that. But for most of us that would be a "Pipe Dream" .

I have lost weight in the past with diets and no exercise when I was 20 years old. I am 6'1.... and back then I went 320 to 220 lbs and I was not proportioned well for that weight.

@ 26 years old I went on a high carb low fat diet, Hit the gym 6 days a week and went from 320 to 255 in 1 year with less than 7% body fat. Proportioned very well.

@ 47 w/diabetes I have gone from 380 lbs to 305 in 2 1/2 years and the only fat I have is around my middle. For me and most people my age dieting alone will get you minimal results and usually with minimal results people go back to what got them there in the first place.....eating anything they want. With exercise and dieting you get more bang for your buck and more return on your investment.


So I'm really not trying to be a dick but if you can take off 100+ pounds with a 2800 calorie a day diet and keep it off at the age of 40+ ....I honestly envy you and anyone that can do that. But I am skeptical so .... good luck with that.
I feel like we're talking past each other. A 350 pounder eating 2,800 calories a day will lose weight. Eventually, that 350 pounder will become a 325 pounder who won't lose weight. At that time, he's got to cut back to 2,600 calories.

It's not like you can eat 2,800 calories forever and keep losing weight, but you've got to take it one step at a time. If you're used to eating 3,500 calories a day, cutting back to 1,750 right away isn't going to be easy. Backing down to 2,800 isn't really a huge sacrifice that requires strict discipline. 2,800 calories is still a lot.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:15 PM   #262
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I feel like we're talking past each other. A 350 pounder eating 2,800 calories a day will lose weight. Eventually, that 350 pounder will become a 325 pounder who won't lose weight. At that time, he's got to cut back to 2,600 calories.

It's not like you can eat 2,800 calories forever and keep losing weight, but you've got to take it one step at a time. If you're used to eating 3,500 calories a day, cutting back to 1,750 right away isn't going to be easy. Backing down to 2,800 isn't really a huge sacrifice that requires strict discipline. 2,800 calories is still a lot.
Cutting from 4000 calories a day to 1200 was a 2 week deal for me, and what I did was eat a **** ton of veg to compensate for the lack of volume, slowly decreasing even that. It is incredibly easy if you decide to do what's necessary, and are resolved to get it done. I'm not trying to stand on a soap box, I've ****ed it all off, I'm just saying, been there, done that, and it really wasn't that bad when I was determined to change.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:27 PM   #263
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I love oatmeal, but it gives me terrible heartburn.
No kidding?


When I don't eat right (aka stuffing myself) it is usually marinara sauce or other high garlic rich foods that kick my butt. Oatmeal and other grain-type foods help me bigtime.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:39 PM   #264
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Portion control and eating 5-6 times a day works for me.

You never want to feel hunger pangs, then it's too late.

Like your gas tank for your car.

You wouldn't run your gas tank down to empty (not on purpose).

Eat small meals 300 calories or so 6 times a day and your body never goes into fat storage mode.

Walking is all you really need.

Worked for Jared Fogle.

Portion control and walking.


This is so incorrect. I sometimes don't eat my first meal until 4-5 pm and get all my calories in an 6-8 hour window on most days. This is called intermittent fasting. By doing this you actually DO create a fat burning window to help you stay leaner. You are incorrect when saying that eating small meals prevents fat storage.

Eating multiple meals through the day does not increase one's metabolism. Our metabolism is not regulated in hours, it is regulated in days.

People need to stop thinking about calories in hour windows but in days. It doesn't matter when you get your calories in that day, just get them to the level you need. Less to lose weight, more to gain weight.

I can even maintain a 400+ lb deadlift (I weight 180lbs) when only eating my calories at night and many times training fasted at 3 pm in the afternoon. IT IS OK TO BE HUNGRY AND FEEL HUNGRY! Feeling hungry or going long period of the day without eating does not effect one's "brain" or energy levels unless you already have an insulin problem. Most of the world's population does not but for some reason thinks being hungry makes them tired. It simply is a poor mindset and there is no physiological response of the body to back this up.
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Old 07-08-2013, 05:03 PM   #265
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This is so incorrect. I sometimes don't eat my first meal until 4-5 pm and get all my calories in an 6-8 hour window on most days. This is called intermittent fasting. By doing this you actually DO create a fat burning window to help you stay leaner. You are incorrect when saying that eating small meals prevents fat storage.

Eating multiple meals through the day does not increase one's metabolism. Our metabolism is not regulated in hours, it is regulated in days.

People need to stop thinking about calories in hour windows but in days. It doesn't matter when you get your calories in that day, just get them to the level you need. Less to lose weight, more to gain weight.

I can even maintain a 400+ lb deadlift (I weight 180lbs) when only eating my calories at night and many times training fasted at 3 pm in the afternoon. IT IS OK TO BE HUNGRY AND FEEL HUNGRY! Feeling hungry or going long period of the day without eating does not effect one's "brain" or energy levels unless you already have an insulin problem. Most of the world's population does not but for some reason thinks being hungry makes them tired. It simply is a poor mindset and there is no physiological response of the body to back this up.
This. All of this.

Fat storage is a matter of excess calories, not meal timing.
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When I don't eat right (aka stuffing myself) it is usually marinara sauce or other high garlic rich foods that kick my butt. Oatmeal and other grain-type foods help me bigtime.
It's strange, but true. And I don't get heartburn too often.
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This. All of this.

Fat storage is a matter of excess calories, not meal timing.
It is actually a storage of excess sugar. Your body burns fat (slowly) and sugar. It will store excess carbs since it is designed to survive in a feast or famine environment. Your body can turn fat into sugar through glucongensis but it is not very efficient as only about 10% of the fat you consume is turned to sugar. That is why low carb diets make you lose weight. It is also why most low carb Type 2 diabetics are unconcerned with the amount of fat they eat since they need it to maintain healthy blood sugar levels.

Not eating fat or carbs leads to rabbit starvation which is really bad.
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It is actually a storage of excess sugar. Your body burns fat (slowly) and sugar. It will store excess carbs since it is designed to survive in a feast or famine environment. Your body can turn fat into sugar through glucongensis but it is not very efficient as only about 10% of the fat you consume is turned to sugar. That is why low carb diets make you lose weight. It is also why most low carb Type 2 diabetics are unconcerned with the amount of fat they eat since they need it to maintain healthy blood sugar levels.

Not eating fat or carbs leads to rabbit starvation which is really bad.
This is a complete load of horseshit.
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