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Old 07-01-2013, 08:33 AM  
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Egyptian protestors storming Muslim Brotherhood HQ, demanding Morsi's removal.

The ugly business of budding democracies.

Happening before our very eyes. This is explosive.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...850692648.html

Egypt opposition to continue mass protests
Seat of the powerful Muslim Brotherhood to which President Morsi belongs set on fire as protesters push for his removal.
Last Modified: 01 Jul 2013 12:45

Protesters seeking to force Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi from office are gearing up for a second day of action, after large crowds thronged the streets of Cairo and cities around the country and marched on the presidential palace.

In the capital, the seat of the powerful Muslim Brotherhood to which Morsi belongs, was set ablaze before people stormed and looted the building, an AFP correspondent there said.

People were seen leaving with petrol bombs, helmets, flak jackets, furniture, televisions and documents.

Some preparing for rallies on Monday spent the night in dozens of tents pitched at Cairo's central Tahrir Square and the palace, positions organisers say they will hold until Morsi resigns.

In fewer numbers, supporters of the Egyptian president came out on Sunday to show their support and defend what they called the president’s "legitimacy".

As anger against Morsi swept the streets, at least six people were killed and more than 600 wounded in clashes between the pro and anti-Morsi groups, the Reuters news agency reported.

The main opposition Tamarod - Arabic for rebellion - movement, which led the demonstrations, gave Morsi a deadline of Tuesday to quit, threatening a campaign of civil disobedience if he stays.

The number of people who joined in protests on Sunday, the anniversary of Morsi's first year in office, was between 14m and 17m people, the interior ministry told Al Jazeera.

"It is absolutely fair to say that an unprecedented number of Egyptians went to the streets accross the country," said Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel Hamid, reporting from Cairo.

She added that a statement from Morsi during the protests was not welcomed by many, as it did not offer anything new.

In the message released on Sunday, he said: "I believe we can come together and find a way that builds our country," and he could "engage in national dialogue."

In its statement, Tamarod urged "state institutions including the army, the police and the judiciary to clearly side with the popular will as represented by the crowds."

The group also rejected presidential calls for dialogue, saying: "There is no way to accept any halfway measures.

"There is no alternative other than the peaceful end of power of the Muslim Brotherhood and its representative, Mohamed Morsi."

Morsi supporters

A few kilometres away from the presidential palace, thousands of Morsi supporters also staged their own sit-in to show support for their president.

"If we are saying that we have a majority, and the opposition are saying that they have a majority, how can they decide?" asked Nader Omran, a spokesman for the Freedom and Justice Party, the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood.

"What is the other solution for this dilemma, except the ballot box?"

Presidential spokesman Omar Amer said Morsi was serious in his repeated calls for national dialogue.

"[Morsi] announced to all of Egypt's people he made mistakes and that he is in the process of fixing these mistakes," Amer told a late-night news conference.

The duelling rallies on Sunday only further highlighted the deepening political polarisation in Egypt.

Morsi supporters are full of praise for his first year in office, insisting that the president has strengthened civilian rule in Egypt and done his best to manage a failing economy.

Many of them dismissed Sunday’s protests as the work of ex-regime figures and “thugs”, fuelled by a hostile media and Western governments.

Anti-government protesters, on the other hand, dismissed Morsi’s first term as a failure and described him as a dictatorial leader. Many accused him of backing the Palestinian group Hamas and other armed groups; one well-dressed man in Tahrir insisted that Morsi planned to cede the Sinai peninsula to Hamas.

But their main complaint was the worsening economy, which has been in free-fall since Morsi took office, with the Egyptian pound losing nearly 20 percent of its value and industry crippled by fuel and electricity shortages.

"He's borrowed money from everyone in the world," said Said Ahmed, referring to $11bn in loans Egypt has received from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey to prop up the economy. "Who's going to pay for that? Our children."
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:58 PM   #136
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No way. Gore recieved more votes than Bush, There was a long court battle and in the PR dept. Protests in the streets. Not a single act of violence.

In Egypt is a long history of the people being unsatisfied with the current leaders and there is a coup.

This is why the people are not upset about their new fledgling Democracy having a coup after one year. There is a long history of this happening.

And since when do we take politicians issuing statements as gospel. Do you not realize they are PR? That maybe other things are being done in private to further our interests?

I'm telling you guys again......if the muslim brotherhood fight the military, they will be put down ruthlessly and not always publicly. They are not going to tolerate violent dissension. Where do you think the CIA's retention captives end up more often than not?
Well you completely missed my question.

I'm asking if there is a way in the Egyptian constitution (if they have one) to remove their president peacefully through a legal process.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:16 PM   #137
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Well you completely missed my question.

I'm asking if there is a way in the Egyptian constitution (if they have one) to remove their president peacefully through a legal process.
Even if there is their Democracy is not mature enough to use it. Either way they are going to be battling in the streets.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:20 PM   #138
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Even if there is their Democracy is not mature enough to use it. Either way they are going to be battling in the streets.
I need the answer to my question to answer Direckshun's.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:29 PM   #139
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I need the answer to my question to answer Direckshun's.
wellllll Google it yourself. Or use Bing.
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:37 PM   #140
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A message to Obama & Americans

He speaks in English at the 40 second mark
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:44 PM   #141
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Livesteam endorsing the message of random muslims
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:18 AM   #142
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That video really drives home how shitty the Muslim Brotherhood is.

They need to be ****ing eradicated from this planet.
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:05 AM   #143
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That video really drives home how shitty the Muslim Brotherhood is.

They need to be ****ing eradicated from this planet.
I can name a few other ****ING'S that need eradicated as well.
PC bullshit for starters
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:38 AM   #144
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somehow the eradication of ****ing doesn't sound like a good thing to me...
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:42 AM   #145
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somehow the eradication of ****ing doesn't sound like a good thing to me...
1. no moar ppl
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3. no moar libearals
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:49 PM   #146
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Russia's the country that just imprisoned Pussy Riot. Not exactly a bastion of civil liberties.

The Muslim Brotherhood did nothing illegal, so far as I'm aware. The only person that had was Morsi who declared himself above the Constitution, which as far as I know, was actually somehow allowed.
FREE PUSSY RIOT!

Sorry. Had to throw that out there.
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:54 PM   #147
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Let me ask a question for everybody in this thread in favor of this coup:

If the U.S. military chose to remove Obama from office after 1 year, would you have supported it?

Why or why not, and how is this different from Egypt?
If he orchestrated the changing of the Constitution to pervert our founding concepts? Absolutely. I'd march alongside them carrying a weapon myself if need be.
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Old 07-08-2013, 07:05 PM   #148
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Here, check out this article:

http://www.omjp.org/ArtLarryDisobey.html
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Old 07-08-2013, 08:32 PM   #149
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51 dead, 400+ shot today by the military. Must be the Arab spring. The time when a young ME coup turns to massacre.
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I don't vouch for the authenticity of this report, but it is an interesting interview.
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