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Old 07-11-2013, 11:01 AM  
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Zimmerman Trial Is Deteriorating Into Kangaroo Court

You don’t need a law degree to be familiar with the term railroading:


After convincing the judge presiding over George Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial to allow jurors to consider manslaughter, prosecutors sent the neighborhood watch volunteer’s defense lawyer into a rage by asking the judge to also include felony murder — based on child abuse — in the jury instructions. …

Judge Debra Nelson did not rule on the prosecution’s request that jurors be able to consider the felony murder charge based on child abuse. Under felony murder statutes, a defendant can be charged with murder if he or she causes someone’s death while committing a felony, in this case, according to the prosecution, child abuse. At 17, Martin was a minor when he was killed.

The case is expected to go to the jury as early as tomorrow, the defense having successfully defended Zimmerman against the crime he was being prosecuted for, second-degree murder. But this is no biggie for the railroaders, if they can simply change the charge at the last second with the assistance of the friendly judge.

Unless all you know about Trayvon Martin is the pictures the media used from when he was a darling 12-year-old, the child abuse charge would never pass the laugh test. The 5’7” Zimmerman would have to have known that the 5’11’’ Martin was only 17. Was he supposed to ask for ID while his skull was getting bashed against the sidewalk?

But the trial itself doesn’t pass the laugh test. It is only taking place because orders have come down from the White House that Zimmerman is a race criminal and must be established as such in the public consciousness for political reasons.

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:33 PM   #46
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**** the race card and everyone who uses it as a crutch. And **** the media for acting like they give a shit about any black man NOT named Obama. They're using the black man to make head lines and stir up controversy. If this was black-on-black, it wouldn't make the news. If this was white-on-white, it would've made the news for one night and been forgotten by America.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:01 PM   #47
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:46 PM   #48
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I heard a rumor people are planning on rioting the plaza if Zimmerman is aquitted

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Old 07-11-2013, 10:04 PM   #49
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:09 AM   #50
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I think the issue is that the lesser wasn't included in the original indictment. In many cases the prosecution isn't allowed to add a lesser charge after the trial starts. They need to list all charges up front. Not always the case, but they got a friendly judge. Defense now has grounds for appeal.

Maybe, I dunno. There's definitely a concept of conforming the claims to match the evidence, but that very likely is limited to civil proceedings, with which I am far more familiar.

Seems kind of stupid though. If it's a lesser included then by definition it includes some, but not all, of the same elements as the greater offense. Not like the defense is in any way prejudiced by this. But criminal law is more hyper-technical than civil, no doubt about it, so maybe an indictment is needed even for the lesser included.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:15 AM   #51
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I think they'll have a number of reasons to get an appeal.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:50 AM   #52
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:26 AM   #53
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Old 07-12-2013, 08:44 AM   #54
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You don’t need a law degree to be familiar with the term railroading:


After convincing the judge presiding over George Zimmerman’s second-degree murder trial to allow jurors to consider manslaughter, prosecutors sent the neighborhood watch volunteer’s defense lawyer into a rage by asking the judge to also include felony murder — based on child abuse — in the jury instructions. …

Judge Debra Nelson did not rule on the prosecution’s request that jurors be able to consider the felony murder charge based on child abuse. Under felony murder statutes, a defendant can be charged with murder if he or she causes someone’s death while committing a felony, in this case, according to the prosecution, child abuse. At 17, Martin was a minor when he was killed.

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But the trial itself doesn’t pass the laugh test. It is only taking place because orders have come down from the White House that Zimmerman is a race criminal and must be established as such in the public consciousness for political reasons.

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Zimmerman was innocent? Seems right.
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