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Old 07-19-2013, 11:56 PM  
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NSA Phone Snooping Cannot Be Challenged in Court, says Obama Admin

The Obama administration for the first time responded to a Spygate lawsuit, telling a federal judge the wholesale vacuuming up of all phone-call metadata in the United States is in the “public interest,” does not breach the constitutional rights of Americans and cannot be challenged in a court of law.

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Old 07-20-2013, 12:03 AM   #2
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:13 AM   #3
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That's the best test to show that something doesn't violate our Constitutional rights: Don't allow the courts to even hear arguments that it might.

What I don't understand is why they're bothering to tell a court. Isn't it their position that it's none of the court's business? Why even participate at all?
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:15 AM   #4
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Maybe he thinks the system is about Czechs and Balances($$$).....
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:17 AM   #5
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Maybe he thinks the system is about Czechs and Balances($$$).....
Not Balances. Valances. It's all window dressing.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:47 AM   #6
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Not Balances. Valances. It's all window dressing.
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #7
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ya, I assumed this was going to be used once the prez first addressed the Snowden evidence saying it's "not unconstitutional" to store american data & comm.

congress just keeps their heads down & mouths shut too.

not gonna vote this movement out of gov't
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:33 AM   #8
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:59 AM   #9
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That's the best test to show that something doesn't violate our Constitutional rights: Don't allow the courts to even hear arguments that it might.

What I don't understand is why they're bothering to tell a court. Isn't it their position that it's none of the court's business? Why even participate at all?
Because the Wannabe Dictator bullies judges—even the Supreme Court.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:30 AM   #10
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This from a specialist in constitutional law...
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:40 AM   #11
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:33 PM   #12
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This from a specialist in constitutional law...
He knows it, but obviously hates it—as do most of the left. ( which includes NCs )
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Old 07-20-2013, 02:25 PM   #13
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:54 PM   #14
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:10 AM   #15
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Move over NSA, here comes the Obamacare Big Brother database - See more at:

http://rare.us/story/move-over-nsa-h....xp8pS7YA.dpuf

This should come in handy when inconvenient people need to be motivated to become more compliant. If they could make John Roberts reverse himself and issue a nonsensical opinion that destroyed his reputation to get ObamaCare certified as constitutional, think what they will be able to do with the secrets they will have on every American everywhere.

Who will have access to the Data Hub? Hackers, of course, but also uncountable hordes of power-hungry, ideologically deranged bureaucrats.
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