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Old 09-28-2012, 07:34 PM  
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Los Angeles City Council approves NFL Stadium

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LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles took a major step Friday toward building a downtown stadium to lure an NFL team back to the nation's second most populous city, despite questions about how a 72,000-seat venue in the city's urban core would impact notorious freeway traffic, nearby housing prices and air quality.


The 12-0 vote by City Council came after starkly contrasting predictions about what the $1.5 billion project would mean for an economically troubled city that has fretted over the loss of professional football since the Raiders and Rams fled Southern California in 1994.

Supporters said the deal with developer Anschutz Entertainment Group would create thousands of jobs, a hub of civic pride and new tax dollars for cash-starved City Hall, while critics warned that affordable housing would vanish in the neighborhood while traffic would come to a virtual standstill on game days.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said in a statement after the vote that it demonstrates "what we can accomplish when the city family joins together with private partners in a transformational development."

"This is truly a game changer for Los Angeles," Villaraigosa said.

The vote was overshadowed by the recent announcement that AEG was seeking a new owner, though company officials have assured City Hall the stadium plan will remain the same, even if the company changes hands.

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The biggest question about the stadium is the most obvious: There's no one to play in it. But the Democratic mayor and other supporters hope the agreement will eventually attract a team - or two - to one of the nation's most lucrative media markets.

AEG, also the owner of Los Angeles' Staples Center arena and the NHL's Los Angeles Kings, has deep ties to City Hall. Any deal to buy the company, a subsidiary of Denver-based Anschutz Co., would mean a major shift in sports and entertainment in the region and around the world.

AEG's holdings include pro soccer's Los Angeles Galaxy, part-ownership of the NBA's Los Angeles Lakers, and major entertainment and real estate holdings in downtown Los Angeles. Outside the city, AEG owns Major League Soccer's Houston Dynamo and all or part of several arenas around the U.S. and in Sweden, China and Australia.

The project, which calls for the renovation of an adjacent convention center, is facing a lawsuit filed by anti-poverty and environmental activists that some predict could delay or derail plans for the stadium, known as Farmers Field. The activist group, Play Fair at Farmers Field Coalition, is challenging a state law intended to help swiftly resolve legal challenges to the stadium, and it also wants AEG to pay $60 million toward affordable housing in the long-struggling downtown neighborhood.

There are some risky assumptions. In a city where everyone drives, planners predict many fans will leave their vehicles at home and travel to the stadium by bus or rail.

A rival group, Majestic Realty, has proposed building a stadium in the City of Industry, outside Los Angeles.

AEG is hoping to have an NFL team on the field by the 2017 season. The company has pledged about $35 million to reduce traffic problems.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:55 AM   #151
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Mojo rising I'm not sure where you're from but Dane and I are LA guys. The parking lot situation out here isn't a concern whatsoever. The majority of locals attending will be either, a) rich people entertaining guests/clients, basically your club level people at Arrowhead. They don't tailgate. Or b) poorer "true fans" who will take public transportation or park in one of the 50 satellite lots nearby like they do for Lakers games and drink in the sidewalk or in a local bar or at the stadium. We don't tailgate here.
Plus let's be honest most people in CA wouldn't know good BBQ if it was sucking their dick. Besides who would tailgate with wine?????
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:57 AM   #152
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But I do wonder if the Tailgate situation with LA might be somewhat similar to the tailgate situation in OAK? Ironically a good fraction of the people who tailgate at raiders games don't actually have tickets to the game. LOL they just come to tailgate...
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:57 AM   #153
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Plus let's be honest most people in CA wouldn't know good BBQ if it was sucking their dick. Besides who would tailgate with wine?????
Good point.

The majority of the "tailgating" will occur in the luxury suites.
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Hell if they wanted to they could just build the stadium and get a Liga MX team in there. Why wait for the NFL it's come in it's own time...
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:01 AM   #155
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Good point.

The majority of the "tailgating" will occur in the luxury suites.
Actually, the majority of tailgating will be done on the 5, 10 and 110 freeways.

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Mojo rising I'm not sure where you're from but Dane and I are LA guys. The parking lot situation out here isn't a concern whatsoever. The majority of locals attending will be either, a) rich people entertaining guests/clients, basically your club level people at Arrowhead. They don't tailgate. Or b) poorer "true fans" who will take public transportation or park in one of the 50 satellite lots nearby like they do for Lakers games and drink in the sidewalk or in a local bar or at the stadium. We don't tailgate here.
Tiny, I live in Orange County. Close to I5. There are many rich guys near here who could afford Season Tickets. ST's are what makes a team survive.

The dynamics of Staples with 10k lower bowl seats for a Lakers game is much different than needing to sell 70k for 10 weeks a year.

My neighbor just dropped his Laker ST's because he didn't think he could sell the 20 games at break even or near profit to justify the 20 games he would attend. Different dynamic.

Take an area like SF for example. The NFL team has recently left an urban environment for a suburban environment.
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Actually, the majority of tailgating will be done on the 5, 10 and 110 freeways.

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Actually, the majority of tailgating will be done on the 5, 10 and 110 freeways.

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...I was going to make the same joke....just build the stadium near a freeway and have people tailgate on the highway...no one in LA would know the difference! Turn the highway into a parking lot for a few hours. Would LA really notice?????
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Tiny, I live in Orange County. Close to I5. There are many rich guys near here who could afford Season Tickets. ST's are what makes a team survive.

The dynamics of Staples with 10k lower bowl seats for a Lakers game is much different than needing to sell 70k for 10 weeks a year.

My neighbor just dropped his Laker ST's because he didn't think he could sell the 20 games at break even or near profit to justify the 20 games he would attend. Different dynamic.

Take an area like SF for example. The NFL team has recently left an urban environment for a suburban environment.
The 49ers situation is a bit of a special environment. They desperately needed a new stadium and the city is about as anti-development as any city could be. No way were they really going to let a huge NFL stadium be built where it should(i.e. downtown or on the waterfront ala the Giants). They sort of tried saying to remodel candlestick, but candlestick's location sucks ass. It's effectively in the suburbs without being in the suburbs.

Hence why they are soon to be the Santa Clara 49ers.
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This is laughable. You're using a nearly two year old article as proof that Philip Anschutz is willing to spend a more than a billion dollars for an NFL team that he won't own a majority percentage.

Seriously, that's just dumb on your part.

Furthermore, I've provided this forum with insight and spoilers on a variety of subjects involving Los Angeles and Hollywood in particular for more than a decade.

The mere idea that I should provide "links" to conversations that I've had with the principles involved is ludicrous.
So I am laughable and dumb while providing links and you are somehow made as far as providing reliable data?

As I stated, the proponent for AEG has been fired. Show me something different.

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So I am laughable and dumb while providing links and you are somehow made as far as providing reliable data?

As I stated, the proponent for AEG has been fired. Show me something different.

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The 49ers situation is a bit of a special environment. They desperately needed a new stadium and the city is about as anti-development as any city could be. No way were they really going to let a huge NFL stadium be built where it should(i.e. downtown or on the waterfront ala the Giants). They sort of tried saying to remodel candlestick, but candlestick's location sucks ass. It's effectively in the suburbs without being in the suburbs.

Hence why they are soon to be the S anta Clara 49ers.
I met Carmen Policy at a bar on Polk St in '97. He bought me a beer, his gal had me write my address on a bar nap and he sent me the coolest letter the next day. Class act.

He was campaigning for a stadium back then. Didn't work out due to Eddie's legal problems. The York's never liked SF.

A stadium funded by Lennar if they were allowed to gentrify Hunters Point was in the works. The Yorks nixed it. More money in the South Bay.

Shout out to Glen Park!!! I moved to OC from there a few years ago. Lived there 10 years.
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I haven't really read the thread and for that I apologize but I've heard Davis prefers to stay in Oakland but with the town in debt the taxpayers won't be able to afford it? Also, if they were to be able to build one it would be the smallest in the league at like 56,000 max capacity, which is the equivalent to a billionaire buying a KIA and showing it off like it's a Lamborghini. A move that could be made is the Raiders could share the new stadium with SF but both clubs aren't too fond of that. I've heard the three finalists are likely the Chargers, Raiders and Jags? Also, the Raider situation sounds terrible. Where the hell will they end up? Sorry I'm lazy right now lol. Love you Dane
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The Warriors and A's are leaving too?
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The Warriors are moving to SF. A's want to move to SJ so they can sell Suites to Cisco Intel, etc. MLB granted to the SJ market to the Giants (who have less WS wins than the Dodgers since moving to Cali) when they were about to be moved to TB in the 80's.

Again. It is about leverage. Atlanta, St Louis, SD, Oakland all need to build new stadiums.
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