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Old 07-26-2013, 10:29 AM  
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Tarell Brown fired his agent for a really good reason.

I bet the agent was really looking forward to hearing his receptionist say, "Tarell Brown on Line 2".

Seriously, it seems like this is really good lawsuit material. Isn't it the agent's job to know this stuff?


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...49ers-workouts

Tarell Brown left $2 million on the table this offseason. This hardly was part of the plan.

The San Francisco 49ers cornerback was due to earn $2.925 million in 2013, the final year of his contract. To collect $2 million of that salary, he was obligated to attend offseason workouts with the team. Unaware that his attendance was contractually mandatory, Brown worked out on his own in Texas.

He didn't realize he had cost himself dearly until Thursday, when he saw reports on Twitter. He immediately fired his agent, Brian Overstreet.

"No one wants to leave money on the table," Brown said Thursday, via The Associated Press. "If I would have known the clauses in my contract -- that's what agents get paid to do, to orchestrate the contract and to let you know what you can and can't do as far as workouts and OTAs and things of that sort. That's what he got paid to do. He didn't do that, so in my opinion, you have to be let go. We all are held accountable for our actions. This is part of the business."

After finishing what we imagine was a tremendously pleasant conversation with Mr. Overstreet, Brown reached out to the 49ers. Unfortunately for the 28-year-old, "there wasn't too much I really could say."

"It had nothing to do with not being in shape, not wanting to work out, no contract problems, it just had to do with me wanting to go back home and train," Brown said. "It's something I've been doing for the past few years."


Brown said he plans to sit down with 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh in an effort to work out a compromise of some kind.

"Hope for the best," Brown said. "Pray for me."

Let's throw in a prayer for the agent, too. What a mess.
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Old 07-26-2013, 05:29 PM   #46
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He hired and paid an agent to negotiate a complex contract. He is paying an agent to represent him. My guess is, the contract is so complex that most nfl players lack the education to understand, otherwise they wouldn't pay to be represented.

You're right on the 49ers. But it's just bad practice on their part.

Its possible that brown was told and just didn't show up. If he wasn't told, that's just bad business practice for both the team and his agent not to raise the flag.
Oh FFS, it's not the teams or the agents job to remind this jackass that he has a workout clause in his contract. I'm 100% positive this was covered with the player when the contract was signed. An agent is not a babysitter. They are paid to negotiate the contract, disclose the parameters of that contract to the player, and take care of any other legal issues such as endorsements that the player may have. It's the players responsibility to listen to what the agent tells them is in the contract and act on that information accordingly.

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Old 07-26-2013, 05:42 PM   #47
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Yes, I'm sure your contract is exactly like an NFL player's contract. No way an NFL contract is more complex and contains more contractual nuances than yours.
You're missing the point.

This is a major stipulation of the contract....not something that is in fine print somewhere buried in a 100 page document.

Let me ask you this? At your current or past job, did you know how much you made to the dollar and what for and how many hours you worked and how much vacation time (if any) you had etc. All of us know these things.

All I'm saying is this....if I was an NFL player getting paid millions to just make appearances and show up to practice, you bet your ass I'm going to know exactly how much I'm getting paid and when and how often etc. It's not the agent's job to retain major contract info pertaining workout clause and bonuses.

Brown is a dumbass and this was a hard lesson for him to take. Notice how he's now going to beg the 49ers like it's any of their ****ing problem. Be a man and own up, stop looking to other people to blame for your failures.

I bet he knows how much guaranteed money he's supposed to get should he get cut/released.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:51 PM   #48
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:21 PM   #49
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It truly is amazing to see the difference a generation makes.

The nanny state has already drilled into the heads of so many toddler-adults that it is the job of someone else to take care of them and lead them through life.

The world of 1984 is going to be quite easy for some of you to adapt to...
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:26 PM   #50
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How about if you are being paid millions to play football you just show up voluntarily to offseason workouts? Why does it take a multi-million dollar clause to get you show?
That was my initial reaction. Is it that big of a problem to attend workouts in exchange for $2 million freaking dollars?
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:29 PM   #51
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That was my initial reaction, but now I wonder if the contracts that agents sign with players includes some sort of "you are ultimately responsible" clause. If not, I'll bet they will now.
I seriously doubt that. It's easy for a player to find an agent. With the exception of the superstar agents like Scott Boras or Drew Rosenhaus, the agent needs the player a helluva lot more than the player needs that particular agent. And I guarantee you that Boras and Rosenhaus make damn sure details like this don't get overlooked when they would cost their client MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:30 PM   #52
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i think the agent has a leg to stand on though,

its not like Overstreet is some nobody or Browns cousin brother uncle given an agent job. Overstreet reps a lot of mid tier serviceable NFL players.

So if you think Overstreet didnt have the wording of that contract correct or helps his clients think again.

The guy has to deal with players like Dre Kirkpatrick and Nick Fairley I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt his company told Brown to get the **** to practice soon,

like he probably did any of his other clients with camp escalators.
Where do you go to find out who represents who?
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:32 PM   #53
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Sorry, I just can't feel bad or have any empathy for this guy.

A lot of people here don't sign an actual contract for work salaries, but I know how much I get paid, and what for, and what my vacation days are and how they work, sick/personal days etc, and how much I make working OT and how many hours of OT I work. I normally know how many hours I've taken for lunch within the week. etc.

I don't see how this is any different for an NFL player knowing what exactly they're getting paid for etc.
Um, IT IS DIFFERENT because (1) NFL players are dumbasses for the most part and probably incapable of reading and understanding their contract, (2) they hire an agent to DO EXACTLY THAT for them.

Did you hire an agent to negotiate your salary, vacation days, sick days and overtime rate?

I didn't think so.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:34 PM   #54
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We pay our accountants and attorneys to perform certain functions which we need but don't have the expertise to perform. Same with an agent. Unless the agent informed the player of this clause and the player choose to ignore it this is 100 percent on the agent.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:37 PM   #55
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Oh FFS, it's not the teams or the agents job to remind this jackass that he has a workout clause in his contract. I'm 100% positive this was covered with the player when the contract was signed. An agent is not a babysitter. They are paid to negotiate the contract, disclose the parameters of that contract to the player, and take care of any other legal issues such as endorsements that the player may have. It's the players responsibility to listen to what the agent tells them is in the contract and act on that information accordingly.

Anyone who has ever worked with a head hunter to find an acquire a job knows this.
Actually, IT IS THE AGENT'S JOB to remind this jackass that he has a workout clause in his contract. That's one of the reasons the player pays the agent.

Your headhunter analogy is completely wrong. You don't pay the headhunter (unless you're desperate and you have no marketable skills). The company that hires you and pays your salary pays the headhunter. Your relationship with the headhunter terminates as soon as you accept the job offer.

The player's relationship with the agent is ongoing. It's totally different.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:39 PM   #56
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We pay our accountants and attorneys to perform certain functions which we need but don't have the expertise to perform. Same with an agent. Unless the agent informed the player of this clause and the player choose to ignore it this is 100 percent on the agent.
Yep. Athlete's aren't paid to be contract specialists. They're paid to perform on the field. That's what these pencil necked ****s get paid for, and they get paid very well to not **** it up. This guy ****ed it right up. Buh bye.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:41 PM   #57
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It truly is amazing to see the difference a generation makes.

The nanny state has already drilled into the heads of so many toddler-adults that it is the job of someone else to take care of them and lead them through life.

The world of 1984 is going to be quite easy for some of you to adapt to...
What a load of crap. What the **** does this have to do with a "nanny state"?

Answer: This has nothing to do with a nanny state. It's all about hiring a guy to do a job for you and him failing to do the job.

If I hire a tax attorney to make sure I avoid every tax that I can legally avoid, I will fire his ass if he misses some tiny little detail that winds up costing me two million dollars. The tax attorney isn't my nanny: he's a professional that I pay to perform a service.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:14 PM   #58
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It amazes me how badly some people want professional sports to resemble their own experiences with team sports at the youth and high school level. These are grown men with lives outside of football.
Well, then him paying $2M for a little more "life" prolly shouldn't bother him then. Or...........was that "life and family" not worth a mere $2M? We'll know by how he reacts....

Meh, it's only money, he got mom-time... Good for him, and his agent should be commended for helping it happen perhaps.
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Actually, IT IS THE AGENT'S JOB to remind this jackass that he has a workout clause in his contract. That's one of the reasons the player pays the agent.

Your headhunter analogy is completely wrong. You don't pay the headhunter (unless you're desperate and you have no marketable skills). The company that hires you and pays your salary pays the headhunter. Your relationship with the headhunter terminates as soon as you accept the job offer.

The player's relationship with the agent is ongoing. It's totally different.
That's complete bullshit. It's the agents job to tell the player what is in the contract. After that it is the player's responsibility to follow the contract. Working out, taking care of their bodies, and playing football is an NFL player's job. If he doesn't care enough to remember a clause in his contract that will pay him 2 FREAKING MILLION DOLLARS, then the fault is his own.
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What a load of crap. What the **** does this have to do with a "nanny state"?

Answer: This has nothing to do with a nanny state. It's all about hiring a guy to do a job for you and him failing to do the job.

If I hire a tax attorney to make sure I avoid every tax that I can legally avoid, I will fire his ass if he misses some tiny little detail that winds up costing me two million dollars. The tax attorney isn't my nanny: he's a professional that I pay to perform a service.
If the tax attorney tells you "keep your receipts for all business transactions", and you "forget" that he has told you that, is it the attorney's fault that you are ****ed at tax time?
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