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Old 07-26-2013, 09:29 AM  
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Tarell Brown fired his agent for a really good reason.

I bet the agent was really looking forward to hearing his receptionist say, "Tarell Brown on Line 2".

Seriously, it seems like this is really good lawsuit material. Isn't it the agent's job to know this stuff?


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...49ers-workouts

Tarell Brown left $2 million on the table this offseason. This hardly was part of the plan.

The San Francisco 49ers cornerback was due to earn $2.925 million in 2013, the final year of his contract. To collect $2 million of that salary, he was obligated to attend offseason workouts with the team. Unaware that his attendance was contractually mandatory, Brown worked out on his own in Texas.

He didn't realize he had cost himself dearly until Thursday, when he saw reports on Twitter. He immediately fired his agent, Brian Overstreet.

"No one wants to leave money on the table," Brown said Thursday, via The Associated Press. "If I would have known the clauses in my contract -- that's what agents get paid to do, to orchestrate the contract and to let you know what you can and can't do as far as workouts and OTAs and things of that sort. That's what he got paid to do. He didn't do that, so in my opinion, you have to be let go. We all are held accountable for our actions. This is part of the business."

After finishing what we imagine was a tremendously pleasant conversation with Mr. Overstreet, Brown reached out to the 49ers. Unfortunately for the 28-year-old, "there wasn't too much I really could say."

"It had nothing to do with not being in shape, not wanting to work out, no contract problems, it just had to do with me wanting to go back home and train," Brown said. "It's something I've been doing for the past few years."


Brown said he plans to sit down with 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh in an effort to work out a compromise of some kind.

"Hope for the best," Brown said. "Pray for me."

Let's throw in a prayer for the agent, too. What a mess.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:35 AM   #91
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What's your familiarity with the structure of NFL contracts and their negotiations?

I mean I'm assuming you're not just speaking irresponsibly of things you know nothing about. What NFL contracts have you looked over? You seem to have some knowledge about what is and what isn't clearly stated to the player.

I mean for all I know these contracts are 27 pages and very confusing for the average person. I have no idea at all what an NFL contract looks like.
Depending on the amount of bonuses and/or incentives involved the addendum can get up to 10 or 20 pages or more.

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Old 07-27-2013, 08:36 AM   #92
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I really don't think you understand what an agents/managers job is and why they are hired.

If the players have to take an active interest in their contracts then there would be no point in hiring agents. But the players don't have the time for that and don't have the knowledge necessary to do that. Its the agents job to interpret the contract to them and make sure they know what's going on at all times regarding clauses.
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An agents job is to negotiate the contract, ensure that the contract is written in a way that protects the client, and explain the contract to the player. They are not glorified babysitters.

Agents are basically full-service lawyers for the player. If I'm arrested and I hire a lawyer that argues on my behalf and instead of going to jail I get paroled with the expectation that I will not break the law again or I will go to jail, do you think it is that lawyer's responsibility to call me every day to remind me not to break the law?
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:42 AM   #93
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An agents job is to negotiate the contract, ensure that the contract is written in a way that protects the client, and explain the contract to the player. They are not glorified babysitters.

Agents are basically full-service lawyers for the player. If I'm arrested and I hire a lawyer that argues on my behalf and instead of going to jail I get paroled with the expectation that I will not break the law again or I will go to jail, do you think it is that lawyer's responsibility to call me every day to remind me not to break the law?
Yes. Because calling everyday is what we've been saying the agent should have been doing.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:46 AM   #94
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An agents job is to negotiate the contract, ensure that the contract is written in a way that protects the client, and explain the contract to the player. They are not glorified babysitters.

Agents are basically full-service lawyers for the player. If I'm arrested and I hire a lawyer that argues on my behalf and instead of going to jail I get paroled with the expectation that I will not break the law again or I will go to jail, do you think it is that lawyer's responsibility to call me every day to remind me not to break the law?
If there was a mandatory parole hearing 3 years from today, I would expect my lawyer would at least call me to remind me.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:50 AM   #95
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If there was a mandatory parole hearing 3 years from today, I would expect my lawyer would at least call me to remind me.
Why? The lawyer is not going to jail if you don't show up.

Typical dumbass response. Somebody better remind me of my responsibilities or I will blame them for my problems.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:04 AM   #96
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Why? The lawyer is not going to jail if you don't show up.

Typical dumbass response. Somebody better remind me of my responsibilities or I will blame them for my problems.
If a lawyer stops serving you because it no longer fits his best interests, then he is a shitty lawyer. This is a service industry. Especially in the agency world where your reputation means everything, I'd want to think this agent would be smart enough to not let something like this slip past him, especially since he's the most well-versed on the specifics of the contract.

And again, the agent screwed himself because he now doesn't earn commission on that $2M. All he had to do was pick up the phone. You want to blame the player (who is, from reports, actually doing his own workouts) but not the agent who only had to pick up the phone and call.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:04 AM   #97
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:18 AM   #99
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I would imagine his agent should have told him about the contract more thoroughly.
I also would imagine that he will be told he should have read it before he signed the contract.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:23 AM   #100
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I would imagine his agent should have told him about the contract more thoroughly.
I also would imagine that he will be told he should have read it before he signed the contract.
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Anyone who doesn't fully read a contract before signing is a complete dumbass.
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Hey, it's about me. Tarell Brown loses two mill - wait, what? WHAT?!?!?! G** D*** M*****F****** WHAT?!?! NO! NO! WHERE'S MY F*****G AGENT?!?! WHAT'S MY F****** AGENT'S NUMBER! WHAT'S AARON HERNANDEZ'S F****** NUMBER?

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Anyone who doesn't fully read a contract before signing is a complete dumbass.
tell me the details of your latest cell phone contract or rental car contract. or the last update for Microsoft Office.

there are some contracts you sign just because you have no choice so you just have to close your eyes and not worry about the fine print. I hate that but its true..
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there are some contracts you sign just because you have no choice so you just have to close your eyes and not worry about the fine print. I hate that but its true..
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