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Old 07-26-2013, 07:24 PM  
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On first play at camp, Chiefs show their new look
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
Andy Reid delivered a not-so-subtle message Friday with the first play at Chiefs training camp. He had quarterback Alex Smith heave a pass deep down the middle that was hauled in for a touchdown by wide receiver Dexter McCluster.

The play served notice that after two seasons with a dormant passing attack, the Chiefs intend to revive it in a big way.

“I wasn’t ready for that,” Smith said. “I came up and I got a good look for it. Crowd pleaser.”

Much more needs to happen before the passing game can be called successful. But the intent is obviously there. Smith completed another deep pass to McCluster a few plays later.

As much as Reid enjoyed the big plays, he liked the consistency of the passing game. Smith, who completed 70 percent of his passes for the 49ers last season, went several plays into practice before throwing his first incompletion.

“There weren’t a lot of balls on the ground, and it looked like the defense had people covered,” Reid said. “They were in position.”

The trade for Smith was the biggest of the offseason moves aimed at revitalizing a sluggish offense. Smith, the first pick in the 2005 draft and San Francisco’s long-time starter, is used to such pressure.

“I’m much better equipped to handle it now,” Smith said. “When you’re a young guy and coming in and playing early, I dwelled on (negative things) too much. I let it affect my play too much. I tried to please everybody.

“I’m going to play my game. I’m going to try to work as hard as I can to get as good as I can and try to reach my potential and win a bunch of games. That’s the goal. I’m not worried about a bunch of other things.”

Smith received another peek at the expectations waiting for him at the end of practice, when a fan called to him asking Smith to be the Chiefs’ savior.

“That’s a strong word,” Smith said. “That’s a great example. When I was younger, I would have taken that literally. I tried to make every single throw and I tried to prove to everybody on every single play that, yeah, I could do this.”

That McCluster was on the receiving end of Smith’s long passes was another bonus for the Chiefs. They practiced without their most accomplished receiver, Dwayne Bowe, who is on the non-football injury list with a viral condition.

Bowe may return to practice as soon as Saturday. But no matter when he plays, the Chiefs are still in search of a consistent threat to go along with him. The diminutive McCluster has long tantalized the Chiefs with his big-play ability, but he has delivered precious few such plays since arriving as a rookie in 2010.

He bounced from receiver to running back and again to receiver, never seeming to find a comfortable spot. While it’s far too early to call him a changed player in Reid’s offense, it’s a start.

“It’s always good to start a first practice … with a big one,” McCluster said. “I’m happy I held on to the ball.”

Reid’s arrival could rescue McCluster’s career, which stalled last season under coach Romeo Crennel. Reid, then coaching the Philadelphia Eagles, was intrigued by McCluster when he was available in the 2010 draft.

The Chiefs got to him first, but Reid began making plans for McCluster shortly after arriving in Kansas City in January.

“He gives you a little flexibility,” Reid said. “You can move him around a Iittle. We’ll use him here and there.”

During offseason practice and again on Friday, McCluster lined up in a variety of spots.

“I don’t know where he couldn’t line up, to be honest, as far as skill positions go,” Smith said. “He’s got that many tools in the belt.”

Another offensive player the Chiefs are counting on is rookie running back Knile Davis. The Chiefs hope he can be turned into a kickoff return specialist, even though he never returned a kick during a game in college at Arkansas.

That process got off to a rough start Friday when Davis, who was a frequent fumbler in college, dropped a kickoff.

“We’ll get that fixed,” Reid said.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:27 PM   #196
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Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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oh my bad. I didn't realize it was relevant if it only happened today.....

You asked a question dude......
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:28 PM   #197
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I really doubt that. I have been doing the forum thing for a long time now. I treat people with respect until they show me they no longer deserve it. I like things civil.. but no, I can throw dirt as well, if people can't be respectful.

Much like Mav stated, I was pretty shocked that people were so nasty and miserable here. Whenever a fan from another team came over to talk up a player that was traded to SF? All the SF fans and I had very cool discussions with them. That was certainly not the case here... but oooooh well.
did you trade for another teams backup qb repeatedly and everytime in the past it had failed? Did every time fans of the other team come around and tell you how great a deal out was and how great that player was going to be? Did those fans tell you how you should feel about it?

Seriously go back to your board and leave us to wallow in negativity. We well be ok without you here to keep out heads up
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:29 PM   #198
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That's a holdover of the Carl Peterson mentality. It's not safe to draft a QB high, but it is safe to pick one up in the mid to late rounds, or even better as a UDFA because if he fails, well, you didn't lose anything but cash.

You only draft "safe" positions early. Like tackles. Insert gleeful draft gif here.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:29 PM   #199
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oh my bad. I didn't realize it was relevant if it only happened today.....

You asked a question dude......
I didn't say today.

And we are talking about the present not months ago.

Hell I asked Mac first and he wasn't even here around that time. some were shocked when the trade went down and said crazy shit. I'm not seeing many at all saying this season is a failure already. Link me to them
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:30 PM   #200
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I think most of us (including the ones who aren't big fans of Alex Smith) would be extremely surprised by that.

I've interpreted (perhaps wrongly so?) a few people as saying the fact that he wasn't given an extension is a sign that they're having a wait and see approach with him, and I just don't believe that's the case. He's their guy moving forward, I don't think there's any question about that.
I think he's their guy, if he produces. The people saying, MC trade=AS trade, must feel that Smith will be "the guy" no matter what he does. I don't feel that way at all. I believe, if after a few mediocre years the Chief are treading water, they'll move on from Smith.
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I can't imagine why all of Alex Smith's coaches have been "run first" guys...
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:31 PM   #202
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People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

Do you understand the term Developmental? Guess what, Tony Romo was undrafted as well. Matt Flynn was a 7th rounder, hes a starter today. Kurt Warner was undrafted, and developed. Is it the most logical, and successful way to build your franchise? No, but there is also overreaching, and ending up with Brady Quinn, Jamarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards, Matt Leinart, Vince Young.

There is a reason they wanted Tyler Bray. Bray, was not undrafted because of skill set. He was undrafted because of character concerns, and body of work. The skill set, is all there.

I don't personally care what you accept. You stated that you would of been okay with a stop gap, and a developmental qb. I gave you both. The stop gap, Alex Smith, and the developmental in Tyler bray. And now that's not good enough. You figure it out.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:32 PM   #203
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Who gives a **** about what was said months ago.

I'm talking about now.

Who has said this season is a failure already? Recently. Not when shocked the team did the same thing as four years ago.
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You have said other than Clay. So I am going to use Clay as a qualifier. Clay seems to think we can win 5-7 games.
There are a lot of people in http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...or+this+season that think even worse.
Without doing a lot of searching I can tell you Sweet Daddy Hate is right there with GoChiefs. Not to mention those in the thread above.
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I can't imagine why all of Alex Smith's coaches have been "run first" guys...
Really?

Mike Nolan came from Baltimore, which was RUN FIRST WITH JAMAL LEWIS.

Mike Singletary, came from CHICAGO, UNDER DITKA, then from BALTIMORE with Nolan, who was RUN FIRST.

Jim Harbaugh, came from Stanford where he had the BEST QB TO BE DRAFTED IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, and he ran 58 percent of the time in college, and ran more with Kaep, than he threw.

You tell me? maybe that's because that's WHO THOSE COACHES ARE, and less about Alex Smith, especially when I can show you that Jim Harbaugh, an offensive GENIUS still runs more with Andrew luck, and Kaep, as well as Alex.

You aren't very smart are you?
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I didn't say today.

And we are talking about the present not months ago.

Hell I asked Mac first and he wasn't even here around that time. some were shocked when the trade went down and said crazy shit. I'm not seeing many at all saying this season is a failure already. Link me to them
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What is the difference between not thinking Alex Smith will never ever win a PO game as a Chief and believing the season is a failure?

Sorry I dont see the difference.

Now if you think its a possibility, then you have hope.

Many people do not believe it is remotely possible.

I think its a possibility this year.

Granted we haven't even seen a preseason game yet.
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did you trade for another teams backup qb repeatedly and everytime in the past it had failed? Did every time fans of the other team come around and tell you how great a deal out was and how great that player was going to be? Did those fans tell you how you should feel about it?

Seriously go back to your board and leave us to wallow in negativity. We well be ok without you here to keep out heads up
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No niners fan came here with that. Now, maybe pats fans did, but no niners fans came here and preached how great he was going to be. Oh, and do people keep missing the CHIEFS part of his user name?
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:34 PM   #207
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That honestly, is my biggest problem here. You guys don't know shit about what Alex Smith can and cant do. This will be the first year that he will be given complete confidence, and control by his head coach. Every single head coach he has had, has been a run first coach. Hell, Jim Harbaugh, still ran the ball more than he threw with Kaepernick. And I keep hearing people say, if Alex is asked to throw more, hes going to fail. It depends on the throws. If he is still making the short throws that lead to Bowe, or Avery or a tight end, getting a first down, or making their own yards, why would he fail? He has proven to be very VERY good at that. You don't have the personnel to chuck it up all the time. he doesn't have Desean Jackson, and Jeremy Maclin to throw to.

That's why I have said over and over, I have no idea how this is going to pan out, but using anything from San Francisco, as a barometer of how he is going to do here, is stupid, and uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit.
Using what he, had actually done in his career is uninformed hypothetical boring bullshit?

No its facts. Thinking it will be any different would be hypothetical dude.

Facts are facts and by almost any measure Alex Smith is on par with Cassel in terms of production. He averages less than 200 yards a game.

He's been in the league eight years, make all the excuses you want but he's been middle of the pack.
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Really?

Mike Nolan came from Baltimore, which was RUN FIRST WITH JAMAL LEWIS.

Mike Singletary, came from CHICAGO, UNDER DITKA, then from BALTIMORE with Nolan, who was RUN FIRST.

Jim Harbaugh, came from Stanford where he had the BEST QB TO BE DRAFTED IN THE PAST 15 YEARS, and he ran 58 percent of the time in college, and ran more with Kaep, than he threw.

You tell me? maybe that's because that's WHO THOSE COACHES ARE, and less about Alex Smith, especially when I can show you that Jim Harbaugh, an offensive GENIUS still runs more with Andrew luck, and Kaep, as well as Alex.

You aren't very smart are you?


I'm not the dumbass making excuse after excuse for a guy who has been downright terrible his 7 years in the league.

Oh, wait. I'm supposed to ignore the first 5 and just focus the the last two - which by sheer coincidence are the same years his organization was dying to get rid of him.

Yawn. Pats trolls. Niner trolls. Rinse. Repeat.
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I think he's their guy, if he produces. The people saying, MC trade=AS trade, must feel that Smith will be "the guy" no matter what he does. I don't feel that way at all. I believe, if after a few mediocre years the Chief are treading water, they'll move on from Smith.
I think he's extended after this season regardless, so I'm closer to being in the other camp. I don't think he'll be on a short leash. I'd be surprised if he's here less than 5 years, and I don't think there's any way he'll be here less than 3.
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People say G. Smith, Barkley, etc aren't worth a shit because no one took them until the 2nd and 4th rounds - but we're supposed to accept Bray as the potential developmental franchise QB?

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