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Old 09-28-2012, 07:34 PM  
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Los Angeles City Council approves NFL Stadium

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LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles took a major step Friday toward building a downtown stadium to lure an NFL team back to the nation's second most populous city, despite questions about how a 72,000-seat venue in the city's urban core would impact notorious freeway traffic, nearby housing prices and air quality.


The 12-0 vote by City Council came after starkly contrasting predictions about what the $1.5 billion project would mean for an economically troubled city that has fretted over the loss of professional football since the Raiders and Rams fled Southern California in 1994.

Supporters said the deal with developer Anschutz Entertainment Group would create thousands of jobs, a hub of civic pride and new tax dollars for cash-starved City Hall, while critics warned that affordable housing would vanish in the neighborhood while traffic would come to a virtual standstill on game days.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said in a statement after the vote that it demonstrates "what we can accomplish when the city family joins together with private partners in a transformational development."

"This is truly a game changer for Los Angeles," Villaraigosa said.

The vote was overshadowed by the recent announcement that AEG was seeking a new owner, though company officials have assured City Hall the stadium plan will remain the same, even if the company changes hands.

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The biggest question about the stadium is the most obvious: There's no one to play in it. But the Democratic mayor and other supporters hope the agreement will eventually attract a team - or two - to one of the nation's most lucrative media markets.

AEG, also the owner of Los Angeles' Staples Center arena and the NHL's Los Angeles Kings, has deep ties to City Hall. Any deal to buy the company, a subsidiary of Denver-based Anschutz Co., would mean a major shift in sports and entertainment in the region and around the world.

AEG's holdings include pro soccer's Los Angeles Galaxy, part-ownership of the NBA's Los Angeles Lakers, and major entertainment and real estate holdings in downtown Los Angeles. Outside the city, AEG owns Major League Soccer's Houston Dynamo and all or part of several arenas around the U.S. and in Sweden, China and Australia.

The project, which calls for the renovation of an adjacent convention center, is facing a lawsuit filed by anti-poverty and environmental activists that some predict could delay or derail plans for the stadium, known as Farmers Field. The activist group, Play Fair at Farmers Field Coalition, is challenging a state law intended to help swiftly resolve legal challenges to the stadium, and it also wants AEG to pay $60 million toward affordable housing in the long-struggling downtown neighborhood.

There are some risky assumptions. In a city where everyone drives, planners predict many fans will leave their vehicles at home and travel to the stadium by bus or rail.

A rival group, Majestic Realty, has proposed building a stadium in the City of Industry, outside Los Angeles.

AEG is hoping to have an NFL team on the field by the 2017 season. The company has pledged about $35 million to reduce traffic problems.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:28 PM   #211
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I used the Googler... Plus, having lived in Napa I had the displeasure to driving through Oakland plenty, L.A. not so much. Neither is the worst in the world, but they're shit holes for sure, and the bulk of the people make them even worse....
Oakland is indeed a nasty, dirty, poor city. They can no longer support a major sports franchise.

But Los Angeles? Malibu, Pacific Palisades, Santa Monica, Westwood, Beverly Hills, Hollywood Hills, Silverlake, Los Feliz, Hancock Park, Pasadena, Manhattan Beach, Redondo Beach, Palos Verdes, Beverly Wood and even DTLA are all far from being "shit holes".

Not to mention Calabasas, Woodland Hills, Canoga Park, Agoura Hills, Encino, Studio City, Burbank, Eagle Rock or Sherman Oaks
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:34 PM   #213
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:38 PM   #214
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Oakland is indeed a nasty, dirty, poor city. They can no longer support a major sports franchise.

But Los Angeles? Malibu, Pacific Palisades, Santa Monica, Westwood, Beverly Hills, Hollywood Hills, Silverlake, Los Feliz, Hancock Park, Pasadena, Manhattan Beach, Redondo Beach, Palos Verdes, Beverly Wood and even DTLA are all far from being "shit holes".

Not to mention Calabasas, Woodland Hills, Canoga Park, Agoura Hills, Encino, Studio City, Burbank, Eagle Rock or Sherman Oaks
Yeah, the people make it the shit hole in the case of L.A.. All that great weather and it attracted assholes like bees to honey. Lots of rich people....not sure that's a good thing.

As for a football team, if it were to happen again, the people will kill it (again). I'm not sure an NFL owner is willing to be the owner of the equivalent of the NFL's L.A. Clippers.

But that's just me, it's not a town that's loyal to many things, and football just might not work very well there.
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Yeah, the people make it the shit hole in the case of L.A.. All that great weather and it attracted assholes like bees to honey. Lots of rich people....not sure that's a good thing.

As for a football team, if it were to happen again, the people will kill it (again). I'm not sure an NFL owner is willing to be the owner of the equivalent of the NFL's L.A. Clippers.

But that's just me, it's not a town that's loyal to many things, and football just might not work very well there.
The city and the economics of the city have changed immensely during the Raiders brief stay. The Staples center does amazing business and AEG owns the Kings, so it unlikely we'd see a Donald Sterling type effort. Magic and his pals spent more than $2 billion on the Dodgers and they are loved in this town as much as the Lakers (if not more).

The NFL will succeed because AEG will put a continual winner on the field. And, the stadium will be amazing.
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The city and the economics of the city have changed immensely during the Raiders brief stay. The Staples center does amazing business and AEG owns the Kings, so it unlikely we'd see a Donald Sterling type effort. Magic and his pals spent more than $2 billion on the Dodgers and they are loved in this town as much as the Lakers (if not more).

The NFL will succeed because AEG will put a continual winner on the field. And, the stadium will be amazing.
Let's hope the Raiders move then. The thugs would need to travel a lot more often (like the do to San Diego) to play tough for a day...
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Old 07-28-2013, 09:27 PM   #217
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Let's hope the Raiders move then. The thugs would need to travel a lot more often (like the do to San Diego) to play tough for a day...
Supposedly, Roger Goodell has said that the Raiders won't be allowed to move to SoCal as long as Mark Davis is the owner.

The biggest problem with the Raiders is exactly what you stated: No one wants the problems associated with their fans. Otherwise, a city like San Jose would be all over them, like they are the A's.

But who wants to deal with that mess of a fan base?
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Supposedly, Roger Goodell has said that the Raiders won't be allowed to move to SoCal as long as Mark Davis is the owner.

The biggest problem with the Raiders is exactly what you stated: No one wants the problems associated with their fans. Otherwise, a city like San Jose would be all over them, like they are the A's.

But who wants to deal with that mess of a fan base?
Sounds like the Chargers might make the most sense.

The Rams is also another possibility?
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Sounds like the Chargers might make the most sense.

The Rams is also another possibility?
I would be cool with the Rams moving back. One of my co-workers is a Rams fan from the old days and he HATES that they are in Mo.

And we don't want them in Mo. anyways.
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Well if not Oakland or LA, then where will the Raiders end up?
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Santa Clara, with the 49ers, is the other possibility.
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I'm thinking Ukia might be good for those boys.
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Santa Clara, with the 49ers, is the other possibility.
There's no way they share a stadium, is there?
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I was going to say Santa Cruz, but I figured the townsfolk would fight that shit tooth and nail.
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