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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 08-05-2013, 07:51 PM   #6811
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That is sick. Sick as hell. Bus driver does nothing. Kids on the bus do nothing.

Sick.
Where the **** is Al Sharpton and the other ****bags. I am sure that guy will be along to point out the white kid should be charged in this case. the driver and the gutless ****s doing the beating would make good batting practice...or target practice for that matter~
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:18 AM   #6812
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That's interesting. I watched that video clip of that bus beating on two different news sites and both of them started it after the kid fell between the seats, so you had no way of knowing what kid getting beat looked like. Wonder why.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:26 AM   #6813
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Damn. How do you let those kids beat on another kid like that? When I went to public school I always considered the bus a dangerous place including the bus stop. I always walked to school.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:33 AM   #6814
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That's interesting. I watched that video clip of that bus beating on two different news sites and both of them started it after the kid fell between the seats, so you had no way of knowing what kid getting beat looked like. Wonder why.
Mysterious indeed...
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:08 PM   #6815
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:21 PM   #6816
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:42 PM   #6818
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The only thing thats abundantly clear, is that none of the black celebs raving about this have actually dug into the details imo, they're too busy doing what they do, they've watched a few CNN clips, watched 10 minutes of the trial and probably not much beyond that... its just a cause to get behind.

If they had dug further, this case maybe wouldnt look so, so, hmmm... black and white to them?
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:52 PM   #6819
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:00 PM   #6820
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The only thing thats abundantly clear, is that none of the black celebs raving about this have actually dug into the details imo, they're too busy doing what they do, they've watched a few CNN clips, watched 10 minutes of the trial and probably not much beyond that... its just a cause to get behind.

If they had dug further, this case maybe wouldnt look so, so, hmmm... black and white to them?
I think you give them too much credit. I'm sure that's the case for some of them, but I think many of them are influenced by race loyalty (i.e. their perception of this case as a stand-in for more widespread race issues)*, ideological loyalty (Trayvon is a leftwing martyr of the gun culture) and the early PR blitz against Zimmerman. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it.

Edit: * Maybe it would be better to call it minority victimhood loyalty, because I don't think blacks are the only people who see it through that kind of lens.
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I think you give them too much credit. I'm sure that's the case for some of them, but I think many of them are influenced by race loyalty.

Edit: * Maybe it would be better to call it minority victimhood loyalty, because I don't think blacks are the only people who see it through that kind of lens.
Oh, i'd say its safe to assume the first sentence entirely, nothing more nothing less... isnt that the way it ALWAYS goes?

Too many blacks in my opinion will forgive nearly any kind of behavior when its challenged by a white, ahem, a white-hispanic person.

To your second part, i've never ever seen latino/hispanic/mexican people, whatever, sooo consistently look past the facts in a given case like this and just rail on it nonstop, the facts be damned.

I'm almost finished with an eight part documentary about native America called "500 Nations"... chronicaling our just truly awful, putrid history with them... the first American slaves were not blacks, they were indians... from the very beginning, and even those proud people dont even come close to the whining and bitching about injustice... even when they dont have even HALF of the modern representation of black people, why, atleast in part is that, imo?

Because they arent out starting shit everywhere you find them, they have too much self respect... America wanted to hate their guts early on too, but they endured the terrible pressures and kept their noble dignity, i couldnt possibly respect their culture more... for too much of black culture, i unfortunately cant say the same.

I'm sick, sick, sick of hearing about how they havent gotten the modern fair shake anymore, it just isnt true at this stage of our evolution as a country imo... its nothing but excuses.
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:33 PM   #6822
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Oh, i'd say its safe to assume the first sentence entirely, nothing more nothing less... isnt that the way it ALWAYS goes?

Too many blacks in my opinion will forgive nearly any kind of behavior when its challenged by a white, ahem, a white-hispanic person.

To your second part, i've never ever seen latino/hispanic/mexican people, whatever, sooo consistently look past the facts in a given case like this and just rail on it nonstop, the facts be damned.

I'm almost finished with an eight part documentary about native America called "500 Nations"... chronicaling our just truly awful, putrid history with them... the first American slaves were not blacks, they were indians... from the very beginning, and even those proud people dont even come close to the whining and bitching about injustice... even when they dont have even HALF of the modern representation of black people, why, atleast in part is that, imo?

Because they arent out starting shit everywhere you find them, they have too much self respect... America wanted to hate their guts early on too, but they endured the terrible pressures and kept their noble dignity, i couldnt possibly respect their culture more... for too much of black culture, i unfortunately cant say the same.

I'm sick, sick, sick of hearing about how they havent gotten the modern fair shake anymore, it just isnt true at this stage of our evolution as a country imo... its nothing but excuses.
Read an actually heart rending comment on an article regarding this case from a Native American women who, as a girl, lived literally on the Trail of Tears [the frontage of her parent's property was the path the Cherokee trod], and her nanny, Native American as well, would take her on regular walks where they'd find human bones and give them ceremonial burial in the woods nearby. To imagine a front yard where your ancestors were forcibly displaced and were left to rot where they died of malnutrition and exhaustion along the way. Ponderous.
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Read an actually heart rending comment on an article regarding this case from a Native American women who, as a girl, lived literally on the Trail of Tears [the frontage of her parent's property was the path the Cherokee trod], and her nanny, Native American as well, would take her on regular walks where they'd find human bones and give them ceremonial burial in the woods nearby. To imagine a front yard where your ancestors were forcibly displaced and were left to rot where they died of malnutrition and exhaustion along the way. Ponderous.
Oh man, yes, the outrages european settlers committed is just unbelievable... we started out as best friends and ended up breaking every single promise EVER made.

Looong before african slaves, we shipped american indians off all over the freaking world and kept them here just the same, if you have an interest in this, definitely watch 500 Nations... it starts at the very beginning, i've read more books on american indians than any other subject, but i learned a TON watching this.

Kevin Costner is a damn good guy, he really cares about this stuff.
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