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Geno Smith 81 19.71%
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

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Old 08-15-2013, 10:14 AM   #811
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With today's CBA, it's unlikely you'll ever see a player in the Top Ten EVER sit a year. Teams need to decide at the end of year two whether or not to extend that player for a fifth year. If a QB sits a year and plays some his second year, how would you know whether to extend him or not? That's just yet ANOTHER bad and WRONG idea.
Smart ownership and right player personal could do it.
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:18 AM   #812
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He wasn't losing the competition until after he twisted his ankle and result of a bad practice. Shouldn't expect a guy to have a bad practice?

No I agree with you this fan base doesn't allow time for a player like a quarterback as a rookie grow and get better. We haven't seen it and then there are those who want to see DJ and Tamba Hali get their ring so its always a win now and forget our future.

I was upset how people treated Bernard Pollard. I still don't get the hate that guy got here. He could lay the wood down and separate ball from and head from the offensive player. We didn't need Eric Berry or could have had both on the same team. Could have kept Bernard Pollard and draft a quarterback with the Eric Berry pick. I do love Eric Berry but would have been bad ass if Bonecrusher and EB were SS and FS.
We don't know if he was losing it or not - we do know that he didn't start game 1.

And we do know that he ultimately lost it. Besides, being neck and neck with Mark Sanchez shouldn't inspire much confidence. Would Ryan Tannehill have been neck and neck with Sanchez? I very much doubt it. Tannehill is a fair starting point for what you should expect in a first round QB.

Geno would've been a bad 1.1. SNR and I were the first two on Geno (back in the 2011 college season) and so I ignored the red flags as the 2012 college season progressed. Then his interviews went like shit as well. He just wasn't a first overall talent when all was said and done. And had we taken him at 2.2. instead of trading it for Smith, we probably don't have Bray. I'm also certain we'd have had a far worse football team in 2013 on account of that choice.

It's time to stop acting like Geno was Luck. He wasn't. He's just another good young developmental QB but he doesn't have appreciably more upside than the guy that replaced him in that role. So at this point it makes a lot more sense to embrace the competent, qualified QB we did bring in, enjoy some good football and trust that the combination of those factors will serve to help Bray develop in his own right.
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:19 AM   #813
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Well he does have a Super Bowl ring that is more than we can say with out him.
I like Geno, but that is the same agrugment people use to justify Alice. Well he ALMOST made a SB blah blah blah. The Ravens probably win a SB without Pollard and the 9ers make the AFC title game with an avg QB.
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Smart ownership and right player personal could do it.
There would be an enormous amount of luck involved as well. It's akin to projecting a high school pitcher into the big leagues becoming a Cy Young winner in a few years.
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:31 AM   #815
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We don't know if he was losing it or not - we do know that he didn't start game 1.

And we do know that he ultimately lost it. Besides, being neck and neck with Mark Sanchez shouldn't inspire much confidence. Would Ryan Tannehill have been neck and neck with Sanchez? I very much doubt it. Tannehill is a fair starting point for what you should expect in a first round QB.

Geno would've been a bad 1.1. SNR and I were the first two on Geno (back in the 2011 college season) and so I ignored the red flags as the 2012 college season progressed. Then his interviews went like shit as well. He just wasn't a first overall talent when all was said and done. And had we taken him at 2.2. instead of trading it for Smith, we probably don't have Bray. I'm also certain we'd have had a far worse football team in 2013 on account of that choice.

It's time to stop acting like Geno was Luck. He wasn't. He's just another good young developmental QB but he doesn't have appreciably more upside than the guy that replaced him in that role. So at this point it makes a lot more sense to embrace the competent, qualified QB we did bring in, enjoy some good football and trust that the combination of those factors will serve to help Bray develop in his own right.


I'm not going to embrace Alex Smith not now or anytime soon. I never thought Geno Smith was another Luck that is for sure. His stock drop at an alarming rate too for his attitude in much part and for not going to the senior bowl didn't do him any favors. I understand why teams passed on Geno Smith.

For me it didn't have to be stuck on Geno Smith, I wanted look at next years draft and be set up to take the best one that class has to offer too but giving up a second and possible second next year for Alex Smith kind of puts that out of whack.

If I knew more about what the Bills saw in their QB pick EJ Manuel maybe I'd would have been happy with him?
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I'm not going to embrace Alex Smith not now or anytime soon. I never thought Geno Smith was another Luck that is for sure. His stock drop at an alarming rate too for his attitude in much part and for not going to the senior bowl didn't do him any favors. I understand why teams passed on Geno Smith.

For me it didn't have to be stuck on Geno Smith, I wanted look at next years draft and be set up to take the best one that class has to offer too but giving up a second and possible second next year for Alex Smith kind of puts that out of whack.

If I knew more about what the Bills saw in their QB pick EJ Manuel maybe I'd would have been happy with him?
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Pollard sucked here aside from a play here and there. He. Sucked. Badly. To say anything else is revisionist history.He also sucked with the Texans.

Good grief dude.
Knee capping Brady was the best thing he's ever done. Well, it may be the best thing any safety has ever done.
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The worst part about your post is that not only are they ****ing dumb, you fail to address anything when your stupidity is pointed out.

Clearly, you've learned NOTHING this offseason.

And seriously, who give a flying **** about what YOU want the Chiefs to do at QB? Do you somehow believe that YOU represent the entire Chiefs fan base?
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I was about to say, had I known what was going to happen as a result of the Pollard on Brady violence I would have started crying right then.
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The worst part about your post is that not only are they ****ing dumb, you fail to address anything when your stupidity is pointed out.

Clearly, you've learned NOTHING this offseason.

And seriously, who give a flying **** about what YOU want the Chiefs to do at QB? Do you somehow believe that YOU represent the entire Chiefs fan base?

I just express my opinions like any one else right or wrong as they may be.
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Sure doesn't sound like it.

It sounds like you're going to keep bitching about Alex Smith instead.
I love Bray, this is a known fact.

And yes. Axl can pretty much suck it. I don't care if he's the greatest game-manager to ever put on a jockstrap, he's not good enough. Period.
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Now Geno is no better than Bray.

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