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Old 08-15-2013, 09:46 PM  
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NC Republican party war against young voters

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/20...-carolina?lite

It was only four days ago that North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) signed sweeping new voting restrictions into law (despite his own personal confusion over what the law says and does). But it'll probably be a little while until we start to see the practical effects, right?

Wrong. Voter-suppression efforts are off to a fast start in North Carolina (thanks to my colleague Tricia McKinney and Facebook commenter Sharon Doherty for the heads-up).

Within hours of Gov. Pat McCrory signing a Republican-backed bill this week making sweeping changes to the state's voting laws, local elections boards in two college towns made moves that could make it harder for students to vote.

The Watauga County Board of Elections voted Monday to eliminate an early voting site and election-day polling precinct on the campus of Appalachian State University.

The Pasquotank County Board of Elections on Tuesday barred an Elizabeth City State University senior from running for city council, ruling his on-campus address couldn't be used to establish local residency. Following the decision, the head of the county's Republican Party said he plans to challenge the voter registrations of more students at the historically black university ahead of upcoming elections.

Much of the criticism of the voting restrictions in North Carolina have focused on Republican efforts to suppress African-American and low-income voter participation, but efforts to target students -- who tend to be more progressive -- are a key provision of the new state law.

That Republicans are already hard at work at Elizabeth City State University checks two boxes on the GOP to-do list -- it targets students and African Americans since the school is a historically black college.

Remember, the use of student IDs for voting came up quite a bit during the legislative debate on the new voter-suppression law. State Sen. Tom Apodaca (R), the bill's chief sponsor, argued that college IDs "could be manipulated" and must therefore be excluded.

Did Apodaca have any evidence of anyone, anywhere ever using a manipulated student ID to commit voter fraud? No. Did Apodaca show that college IDs are more prone to manipulation than other forms of identification? No.

But the provision was included anyway. And now that it's part of the law, the GOP is already hard at work.

Correction: This post originally referenced possible tax penalties for parents whose kids registered to vote using their school addresses, but that was part of a separate measure that was not approved, and wasn't included in the voting restrictions signed this week. The incorrect sentence has been removed.
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:33 AM   #76
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We aren't talking about your weekly trip to the payday loan place, we're talking about voter id. I was right. **** off.
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:37 PM   #77
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Not a surprise. The GOP doesn't want young people voting because they won't support establishment neocons (as evident from the support Ron Paul got from young conservatives instead of Romney, Newt, Frothy, etc). They depend almost entirely on baby-boomer and elderly low-information voters who watch Fox News, read Drudge Report, and accept all the talking points unblinkingly.

Of course, they'll realize they've screwed up royally in the years to come as they continue to get their asses handed to them by the DNC (who's no better than the Republicans but do a far better job of appealing to young voters) in elections.
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:44 PM   #78
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Not a surprise. The GOP doesn't want young people voting because they won't support establishment neocons (as evident from the support Ron Paul got from young conservatives instead of Romney, Newt, Frothy, etc). They depend almost entirely on baby-boomer and elderly low-information voters who watch Fox News, read Drudge Report, and accept all the talking points unblinkingly.

Of course, they'll realize they've screwed up royally in the years to come as they continue to get their asses handed to them by the DNC (who's no better than the Republicans but do a far better job of appealing to young voters) in elections.
There is some truth to this rant.
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Not a surprise.

Of course, they'll realize they've screwed up royally in the years to come as they continue to get their asses handed to them by the DNC (who's no better than the Republicans but do a far better job of appealing to young voters) in elections.
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They depend almost entirely on baby-boomer and elderly low-information voters who watch Fox News, read Drudge Report, and accept all the talking points unblinkingly..
Obama won non-college grads by +4, and lost college grads by -4. So apparently non-college grads are more engaged and more knowledgable about the issues than the grads are.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/re...ent/exit-polls
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Obama easily won the 18-29 and 30-44 age groups (the former was especially a trouncing, with Obama taking 60% of that age group's votes). Romney took the 45-64 and 65+ age groups.

The GOP and their version of the neocon agenda does not appeal to young voters, period. They had three possible responses to this trend:

1. Running on a libertarian platform and putting an end to the establishment's authoritarian Bible-thumping agenda
2. Spinning their usual neocon platform in a way that sounds appealing to young voters, like the Democrats have done
3. Throwing up their hands and alienating young voters as much as possible, including attempting to block them from voting

They've chosen #3, and it will ultimately kill off the GOP as a relevant party.
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Obama easily won the 18-29 and 30-44 age groups (the former was especially a trouncing, with Obama taking 60% of that age group's votes). Romney took the 45-64 and 65+ age groups.

The GOP and their version of the neocon agenda does not appeal to young voters, period. They had three possible responses to this trend:

1. Running on a libertarian platform and putting an end to the establishment's authoritarian Bible-thumping agenda
2. Spinning their usual neocon platform in a way that sounds appealing to young voters, like the Democrats have done
3. Throwing up their hands and alienating young voters as much as possible, including attempting to block them from voting

They've chosen #3, and it will ultimately kill off the GOP as a relevant party.
What do you mean by neocon and how have the democrats spun it to appeal to young voters?
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Old 08-17-2013, 07:40 PM   #84
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Obama easily won the 18-29 and 30-44 age groups (the former was especially a trouncing, with Obama taking 60% of that age group's votes). Romney took the 45-64 and 65+ age groups.

The GOP and their version of the neocon agenda does not appeal to young voters, period. They had three possible responses to this trend:

1. Running on a libertarian platform and putting an end to the establishment's authoritarian Bible-thumping agenda
2. Spinning their usual neocon platform in a way that sounds appealing to young voters, like the Democrats have done
3. Throwing up their hands and alienating young voters as much as possible, including attempting to block them from voting

They've chosen #3, and it will ultimately kill off the GOP as a relevant party.

I specifically addressed your odd comment about "low information elderly voters" favoring the GOP by pointing out Obama lost college grads. If you're saying 18-29 voters are more "informed" than 65+ are, I'm going to laugh pretty hard.
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