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Old 08-09-2013, 02:10 PM  
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Oprah and France 2.0

Apparently France has once again not treated Oprah with proper respect.

France [the NATION] has apologized for a store clerk who wouldn't hand an $80G handbag over to her, suggesting she consider another model.

Fine and good, but what's it been 2 years, 3 years, since Oprah held France hostage on the Int'l stage for the 'humiliation' of not opening the Hermes store after hours for her shopping convenience?

Between this, and the TM incident and the pending opening of 'The Butler' am I completely out of line sensing a slightly off odor, here?
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:31 PM   #46
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Miscommunication misconstrued as racism. That's certainly possible. The clerk should've done a better job of explaining what she meant. Oprah should be less sensitive and not so quick to leap to conclusions, assuming everyone said what they said they said, how they said it, etc. etc.

Always difficult to judge these things when one isn't there...

And when one has been taught to constantly see racism everywhere, like any good American Black has, one will always find it...
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Old 08-12-2013, 03:07 PM   #47
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And when one has been taught to constantly see racism everywhere, like any good American Black has, one will always find it...

And one will never see it if one pretends it doesn't exist, or that people should just not be so sensitive to it.
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Old 08-12-2013, 03:35 PM   #48
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And one will never see it if one pretends it doesn't exist, or that people should just not be so sensitive to it.
I don't think anyone is advocating a "head in the sand" attitude towards racism but you'd have to be the most ignorantly biased person in America to not see how far the pendulum has swung the other direction of late.
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:56 AM   #49
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I don't think anyone is advocating a "head in the sand" attitude towards racism but you'd have to be the most ignorantly biased person in America to not see how far the pendulum has swung the other direction of late.

I don't know if "of late" is right. My gut sense is that racism is declining, in general, but that certain groups, for their own political/social/economic reasons, tend to highlight, emphasize and perpetuate it, seeing it everywhere, even when it is only marginal or non-existent.

Of course, many of those same people are older, and experienced real racism in their younger years or childhoods, and/or heard stories from their parents that would seem impossible here in 2013. If you grew up living with the boogeyman, it's easy to see him and worry about him even if he's largely gone.

But, of course, I'm not a minority, and I live in a relatively insulated, suburban world, so I'm not exactly the best person to be measuring/comparing racism across the years. If there are sociological studies on the topics (and one would assume there are), then I haven't seen them.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:23 AM   #50
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I don't know if "of late" is right. My gut sense is that racism is declining, in general, but that certain groups, for their own political/social/economic reasons, tend to highlight, emphasize and perpetuate it, seeing it everywhere, even when it is only marginal or non-existent.

Of course, many of those same people are older, and experienced real racism in their younger years or childhoods, and/or heard stories from their parents that would seem impossible here in 2013. If you grew up living with the boogeyman, it's easy to see him and worry about him even if he's largely gone.

But, of course, I'm not a minority, and I live in a relatively insulated, suburban world, so I'm not exactly the best person to be measuring/comparing racism across the years. If there are sociological studies on the topics (and one would assume there are), then I haven't seen them.
yet, you are moving on and so should oprah....

"certain groups" includes you.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:27 AM   #51
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yet, you are moving on and so should oprah....

"certain groups" includes you.

Whereas you just go around pretending that racism doesn't exist (or, perhaps, knowing it exists but thinking there is nothing wrong with it -- hey, stereotypes aren't bad if they're TRUE) while, no doubt, wondering why there is any problem with racial profiling by the law enforcement community.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:33 AM   #52
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Whereas you just go around pretending that racism doesn't exist (or, perhaps, knowing it exists but thinking there is nothing wrong with it -- hey, stereotypes aren't bad if they're TRUE) while, no doubt, wondering why there is any problem with racial profiling by the law enforcement community.
ya, you keep propping up that strawman, Sheriff "I'm Movin On" Racist..
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:11 AM   #53
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ya, you keep propping up that strawman, Sheriff "I'm Movin On" Racist..

Not that you're bright enough to have noticed, but we're not talking about Oprah anymore.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:39 AM   #54
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I think Oprah just wants some press for her new movie.

The sales clerk says Oprah is lying, as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ndbag-row.html
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #55
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The 270 pound bag goes shopping for a $35,000 bag.
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Not that you're bright enough to have noticed, but we're not talking about Oprah anymore.


awwww...another false narrative.

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Old 08-23-2013, 10:55 AM   #57
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The Butler. Yet another inflammatory piece of left-wing propaganda, which is evidently intended to enforce the Cultural Marxist notion that America is a wretched place for being racist against blacks.
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