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Old 02-27-2013, 09:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

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Old 08-27-2013, 11:58 AM   #5566
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Some times qbs slip through the cracks. Some times qbs are over drafted.

Like, when Gio Carmazzi, was drafted ahead of Tom Brady, or like when the backers took Brian Brohm in the second round.

Its not an exact science. Yes, Bray had red flags. Attitude, questionable work ethic, but players can overcome some of that.

Like Clays favorite qb, Tony Romo.
While there is no one "right" way to find a franchise QB, the numbers strongly suggest a course of action that the Chiefs haven't taken in 30+ years. At some point, we're going to have to put more faith in the math.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:36 PM   #5567
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Bray does not give us the best of both worlds. Why? He's an UDFA, so there's absolutely no question that something is seriously ****ing wrong with him, likely with his mental makeup.

This is something that fans could not know before the draft, but the writing is obvious now.
Same could be said with Geno. Mentally he sounds like he's not ready either. He was outted as texting during meetings with teams before the draft. Other than the fact that he has a higher floor than Bray, maybe he would have been a UDFA also.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #5568
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Bray does not give us the best of both worlds. Why? He's an UDFA, so there's absolutely no question that something is seriously ****ing wrong with him, likely with his mental makeup.

This is something that fans could not know before the draft, but the writing is obvious now.
The issue with Bray is and has always been his age and maturity level.

Last August, Claynus argued that Bray would be a Top Ten draft choice due to his arm strength, which I refuted due to his immaturity and age.

Bray's in a perfect position to have an NFL career, even if it's only as a back up. He can learn from one of the best QB teachers in the NFL and he'll only be 23 years old to start the 2015 season.

The second largest contingent of Super Bowl winning QB's came not from the 2nd - 7th round, but beyond the 7th round. There's a much higher percentage that he'll become a Franchise Super Bowl winning QB than had he been drafted anywhere from 2-7.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:56 PM   #5569
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I totally agree that people will jump on any negative clipping they find about geno.

Its silly to put too much into anything a rookie qb does in preseason.

This place is sometimes just one big game of GOTCHA.

Its over the top to say Geno is a bust after some preseason struggles, even if they are major.

But....Its a bit of turnabout is fair play.

The Geno danglers continually force fed him to everyone to the level of calling anyone who didn't want him a true fan who is fine with mediocrity.

Some people are having a hard time coming to grips with the reality that maybe they look really really wrong after rubbing it in everyone's face for months.

If you don't want harsh reaction when you are wrong about something don't be an asshole while insisting you are right.
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Old 08-27-2013, 12:59 PM   #5570
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Its over the top to say Geno is a bust after some preseason struggles, even if they are major.

But....Its a bit of turnabout is fair play.

The Geno danglers continually force fed him to everyone to the level of calling anyone who didn't want him a true fan who is fine with mediocrity.
Were those kinds of things said in... oh, I don't know... the GENO SMITH THREAD???

Remember, this entire board was crazy during the season for QBs. Tyler Wilson, Matt Barkley, Mike Glennon, Geno Smith... all of them. It was all over the place, but generally kept to its own thread.

I can't really feel sorry for you if you felt shouted down during the regular season. That's your own fault.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:04 PM   #5571
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While there is no one "right" way to find a franchise QB, the numbers strongly suggest a course of action that the Chiefs haven't taken in 30+ years. At some point, we're going to have to put more faith in the math.
And I believe they will. Although, just because you keep drafting first round qbs and missing, guarantees nothing. The browns since 99 have drafted Tim Couch one over all, Brady Quinn, and Brandon Weeden, and will be drafting one again next season.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:05 PM   #5572
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Same could be said with Geno. Mentally he sounds like he's not ready either. He was outted as texting during meetings with teams before the draft. Other than the fact that he has a higher floor than Bray, maybe he would have been a UDFA also.
Touche. Good points.

If Bray had shown any leadership abilities at all, he would of been drafted.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:06 PM   #5573
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Were those kinds of things said in... oh, I don't know... the GENO SMITH THREAD???
Geno "conversation" overtook most all threads.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:25 PM   #5574
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Geno "conversation" overtook most all threads.
QB talk took over most threads.

The team was shit. The fans were revolting. Our ILB murdered somebody and committed suicide.

Of course the natural course of conversation was going to focus on a new QB. But it was restricted to college QB threads.

You didn't see that shit in the stuff about SOC, and you didn't see it in the Chiefs news threads.

Selective memory.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:33 PM   #5575
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The issue with Bray is and has always been his age and maturity level.

Last August, Claynus argued that Bray would be a Top Ten draft choice due to his arm strength, which I refuted due to his immaturity and age.

Bray's in a perfect position to have an NFL career, even if it's only as a back up. He can learn from one of the best QB teachers in the NFL and he'll only be 23 years old to start the 2015 season.

The second largest contingent of Super Bowl winning QB's came not from the 2nd - 7th round, but beyond the 7th round. There's a much higher percentage that he'll become a Franchise Super Bowl winning QB than had he been drafted anywhere from 2-7.
I'd have to see those numbers again, but I'm dubious about that statistic. The staggering number of college QBs who go undrafted and then get a camp invite would make the percentage of franchise QBs who come from this pool incredibly, incredibly small.
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:44 PM   #5576
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I'd have to see those numbers again, but I'm dubious about that statistic. The staggering number of college QBs who go undrafted and then get a camp invite would make the percentage of franchise QBs who come from this pool incredibly, incredibly small.
Guys like Staubach, Unitas, Starr, Warner, Johnson, etc. were either drafted beyond the 7th round or signed as free agents.

There isn't a "staggering" number of free agent QB signings. Hell, there have only been 55 QB's taken in the second round since 1967, three of which have won a Super Bowl.
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Its over the top to say Geno is a bust after some preseason struggles, even if they are major.

But....Its a bit of turnabout is fair play.

The Geno danglers continually force fed him to everyone to the level of calling anyone who didn't want him a true fan who is fine with mediocrity.

Some people are having a hard time coming to grips with the reality that maybe they look really really wrong after rubbing it in everyone's face for months.

If you don't want harsh reaction when you are wrong about something don't be an asshole while insisting you are right.
Maybe it sounds like a copout, but without a heaping dose of bitching, bickering and back n forth... this place would SUCK.

It does sometimes go on a bit too much for both sides, but without all of this angst and counter-angst, we'd be bored to tears, reduced to bitching about miley cyrus all day
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:56 PM   #5579
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Guys like Staubach, Unitas, Starr, Warner, Johnson, etc. were either drafted beyond the 7th round or signed as free agents.

There isn't a "staggering" number of free agent QB signings. Hell, there have only been 55 QB's taken in the second round since 1967, three of which have won a Super Bowl.
let's presume that there are only 2-3 udfa QBs per year that stick (a number I don't consider unreasonable, but that's arguable). hell, let's say it's 2.5 for the sake of argument. 1967 to 2013 is 46 years. 46*2.5=115. granted, that doesn't take into account the differing lengths of the draft (went from way over 10 rounds to the current seven during that span), nor the amounts of teams and amounts of roster spots.

as for staggering... depends on your threshold of what 'staggering' is.
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hell, it could be argued that staubach was a surefire first rounder if he wasn't at navy--the service committment scared a lot of teams away apparently.
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