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Welcome to the Age of Denial

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/op...20130822&_r=1&

By ADAM FRANK

ROCHESTER — IN 1982, polls showed that 44 percent of Americans believed God had created human beings in their present form. Thirty years later, the fraction of the population who are creationists is 46 percent.

In 1989, when “climate change” had just entered the public lexicon, 63 percent of Americans understood it was a problem. Almost 25 years later, that proportion is actually a bit lower, at 58 percent.

The timeline of these polls defines my career in science. In 1982 I was an undergraduate physics major. In 1989 I was a graduate student. My dream was that, in a quarter-century, I would be a professor of astrophysics, introducing a new generation of students to the powerful yet delicate craft of scientific research.

Much of that dream has come true. Yet instead of sending my students into a world that celebrates the latest science has to offer, I am delivering them into a society ambivalent, even skeptical, about the fruits of science.

This is not a world the scientists I trained with would recognize. Many of them served on the Manhattan Project. Afterward, they helped create the technologies that drove America’s postwar prosperity. In that era of the mid-20th century, politicians were expected to support science financially but otherwise leave it alone. The disaster of Lysenkoism, in which Communist ideology distorted scientific truth and all but destroyed Russian biological science, was still a fresh memory.

The triumph of Western science led most of my professors to believe that progress was inevitable. While the bargain between science and political culture was at times challenged — the nuclear power debate of the 1970s, for example — the battles were fought using scientific evidence. Manufacturing doubt remained firmly off-limits.

Today, however, it is politically effective, and socially acceptable, to deny scientific fact. Narrowly defined, “creationism” was a minor current in American thinking for much of the 20th century. But in the years since I was a student, a well-funded effort has skillfully rebranded that ideology as “creation science” and pushed it into classrooms across the country. Though transparently unscientific, denying evolution has become a litmus test for some conservative politicians, even at the highest levels.

Meanwhile, climate deniers, taking pages from the creationists’ PR playbook, have manufactured doubt about fundamental issues in climate science that were decided scientifically decades ago. And anti-vaccine campaigners brandish a few long-discredited studies to make unproven claims about links between autism and vaccination.

The list goes on. North Carolina has banned state planners from using climate data in their projections of future sea levels. So many Oregon parents have refused vaccination that the state is revising its school entry policies. And all of this is happening in a culture that is less engaged with science and technology as intellectual pursuits than at any point I can remember.

Thus, even as our day-to-day experiences have become dependent on technological progress, many of our leaders have abandoned the postwar bargain in favor of what the scientist Michael Mann calls the “scientization of politics.”

What do I tell my students? From one end of their educational trajectory to the other, our society told these kids science was important. How confusing is it for them now, when scientists receive death threats for simply doing honest research on our planet’s climate history?

Americans always expected their children to face a brighter economic future, and we scientists expected our students to inherit a world where science was embraced by an ever-larger fraction of the population. This never implied turning science into a religion or demanding slavish acceptance of this year’s hot research trends. We face many daunting challenges as a society, and they won’t all be solved with more science and math education. But what has been lost is an understanding that science’s open-ended, evidence-based processes — rather than just its results — are essential to meeting those challenges.

My professors’ generation could respond to silliness like creationism with head-scratching bemusement. My students cannot afford that luxury. Instead they must become fierce champions of science in the marketplace of ideas.

During my undergraduate studies I was shocked at the low opinion some of my professors had of the astronomer Carl Sagan. For me his efforts to popularize science were an inspiration, but for them such “outreach” was a diversion. That view makes no sense today.

The enthusiasm and generous spirit that Mr. Sagan used to advocate for science now must inspire all of us. There are science Twitter feeds and blogs to run, citywide science festivals and high school science fairs that need input. For the civic-minded nonscientists there are school board curriculum meetings and long-term climate response plans that cry out for the participation of informed citizens. And for every parent and grandparent there is the opportunity to make a few more trips to the science museum with your children.

Behind the giant particle accelerators and space observatories, science is a way of behaving in the world. It is, simply put, a tradition. And as we know from history’s darkest moments, even the most enlightened traditions can be broken and lost. Perhaps that is the most important lesson all lifelong students of science must learn now.



Adam Frank, a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester, is the author of “About Time: Cosmology and Culture at the Twilight of the Big Bang” and a founder of NPR’s 13.7 Cosmos and Culture blog.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:00 AM   #31
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We've all see how the left has used the term "denier" in the climate change debate. And despite the absurdity of its use in this context, it has nonetheless been an effective rhetorical device.

So I have to wonder, since there are so many opportunities for those of us on the right to employ this term - and to do so with far greater accuracy - why don't we?

For starters, let's consider the usage and equivalencies. The term "denier" is most widely associated with those who do not believe the historical events of the Holocaust. While those who apply this to climate change might argue an equivalency based on a future "holocaust", this comparison falls short because denying a historical fact is something quite different than holding a different view over unproven theories regarding what might happen in the future.

But we on the right have many opportunities to make better use of the term denier - better, because it would be based on historical facts rather than on future speculation - and some of those fact patterns would indeed relate to holocausts, of sorts. I therefore think we should co-opt this phrase and start applying the term "deniers" to some of these issues.

I'll gladly start this off...

1. Abortion-Is-Murder Denier

2. Communism-Has-Failed Denier

3. Socialism-Has-Failed Denier

4. Obamacare-Is-A-Tax Denier

5. Left-Wing-Media-Bias Denier

6. Martin-Attacked-Zimmerman Denier
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Old 08-26-2013, 07:56 AM   #32
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You think that is the reason for the change in terminology, huh?

Human-caused climate change involves more than just warming. It includes changing precipitation patterns, changing wind patterns, and more extreme weather events everywhere. The terminology "climate change" more effectively communicates the full effects of greenhouse gas emissions, and has nothing to do with bet hedging. Make no mistake, if a long term cooling trend emerges (excepting the occurrence of historically high volcanic activity, a large meteor hitting the earth or nuclear war), it is clear evidence against the predictions of the climate models. If you think "climate change" terminology has to do with bet hedging, you've been duped by the Rush Limbaugh and Fox News crowd.
I think the earth naturally heats and cools in cycles over hundreds of thousands of years.

To act like we fully understand this process and our influence on it after about only 20 years of legitimate science and capable computing is laughable...
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:34 AM   #33
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I think the earth naturally heats and cools in cycles over hundreds of thousands of years.

To act like we fully understand this process and our influence on it after about only 20 years of legitimate science and capable computing is laughable...
Science needs their own Shaman, the priestly class that tells you mother earth will eat your soul unless you donate to st. al of the gore.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:49 AM   #34
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We've all see how the left has used the term "denier" in the climate change debate. And despite the absurdity of its use in this context, it has nonetheless been an effective rhetorical device.

So I have to wonder, since there are so many opportunities for those of us on the right to employ this term - and to do so with far greater accuracy - why don't we?

For starters, let's consider the usage and equivalencies. The term "denier" is most widely associated with those who do not believe the historical events of the Holocaust. While those who apply this to climate change might argue an equivalency based on a future "holocaust", this comparison falls short because denying a historical fact is something quite different than holding a different view over unproven theories regarding what might happen in the future.

But we on the right have many opportunities to make better use of the term denier - better, because it would be based on historical facts rather than on future speculation - and some of those fact patterns would indeed relate to holocausts, of sorts. I therefore think we should co-opt this phrase and start applying the term "deniers" to some of these issues.

I'll gladly start this off...

1. Abortion-Is-Murder Denier

2. Communism-Has-Failed Denier

3. Socialism-Has-Failed Denier

4. Obamacare-Is-A-Tax Denier

5. Left-Wing-Media-Bias Denier

6. Martin-Attacked-Zimmerman Denier


The Left loves science. But only the science that agrees with their ideology.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:58 AM   #35
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I think he's complaining that now that science is telling people how to live their lives, it's sad that they're not as revered as when they were giving people Tang and Velcro.
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This has to be a joke. If not, .
What do you suppose the sequelae of unquestioningly respecting climate change scientists' proclamations should be?
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:06 AM   #36
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The Left loves science. But only the science that agrees with their ideology.
Precisely.

The study of human behavior is a science and they neglect that at every turn.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:10 PM   #38
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Precisely.

The study of human behavior is a science and they neglect that at every turn.
Um, what? You don't know any left-leaning sociologists?
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What do you suppose the sequelae of unquestioningly respecting climate change scientists' proclamations should be?
Politics based on a very fallible premise backed up with random global "testing."
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