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Old 09-02-2013, 06:31 PM  
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DEA is spying on you too.

NYT exposes DEAs Hemisphere program.

So, the DEA has access to all phone records that went through AT&T's switches since at least 1987. Even if you weren't an AT&T customer, the DEA has information on you.

Again, they are not going through a judge or grand jury to get a subpeona for this information. That was specifically part of the patriot act. The government claims that it needs this to streamline the process for getting information on drug dealers never mind the fact that Founders put in the warrant process specifically to stymie the police.

Also, remember Obama said that the government is not spying on citizens. I wonder how Pat is gonna spin this one.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:10 PM   #2
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There was a thread about this a month or so ago. In that article one of the huge red flags was that the DEA was scrubbing that the taps they had were what lead to info they used to further their case for warrants. That's where it really crosses a line for me. However, I think the DEA was still trying to claim it was only used when there was a foreign element involved, I just don't believe that.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:14 PM   #3
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That was a different program where they used the NSA spying. This is the DEA having a spying program of its own.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:55 PM   #4
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That was a different program where they used the NSA spying. This is the DEA having a spying program of its own.
Oh, gotcha. Whether paired with the NSA or not, the fact remains that what they're doing when it comes to domestic tapping and erasing that they did it is unlawful. This is also really great press for ATT.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:08 PM   #5
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all their technology has evolved over the years to intercept all cell phones, thats why I've gone back to a landline to outwhit those idiots.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:14 PM   #6
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all their technology has evolved over the years to intercept all cell phones, thats why I've gone back to a landline to outwhit those idiots.
If it goes through AT&Ts switch whether land line or cell the DEA can get the information without even asking a judge.
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:19 PM   #7
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:36 PM   #8
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Nothing to see here.

Just another "phony scandal."
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Old 09-02-2013, 08:56 PM   #9
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all their technology has evolved over the years to intercept all cell phones, thats why I've gone back to a landline to outwhit those idiots.
you selling drugs? or you dont want them to know when your wife wants you to pick up some bread or milk from the store? lol
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:08 PM   #10
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Pretty simple. Don't deal drugs.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:25 PM   #11
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you selling drugs? or you dont want them to know when your wife wants you to pick up some bread or milk from the store? lol
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:14 PM   #12
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Pretty simple. Don't deal drugs.
Considering a judge doesn't have to sign off on the warrant for them to get your info. Its not like the DEA has to present evidence that you are.

Never mind the fact that drugs shouldn't be illegal in the first place.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:18 PM   #13
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Old 10-07-2013, 07:57 AM   #15
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The most recent 'The Good Wife' from last night had a gripping take on the NSA mess.

Can't tell how much depends on being up to speed on the plot of the show over the years, but it lays some aspects out in both stark and intensely labyrinthine terms.

Would recommend.
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