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Old 09-05-2013, 07:04 AM  
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Obama's Syrian Allies Bombard Christian Village

Obama’s allies in Syria — those who will directly benefit from the coming US airstrikes — stepped up their genocide against Syrian Christians today, attacking Maaloula, a Christian village, indiscriminately using mortar shells fired from a hilltop above the village.

According to the press report:

“Maaloula, a mountain village some 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus, is home to about 2,000 residents, some of whom still speak a version of Aramaic, the ancient language of biblical times believed to have been spoken by Jesus.”
Never mind the allegation no matter if false about Assad's attack on civilians, these guys are engaged in Christian genocide.

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Old 09-05-2013, 01:26 PM   #31
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:27 PM   #32
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:30 PM   #33
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Even if I was a hawk on Syria, I can't imagine what kind of Republican would be so foolish as to want to give this president any more rope to hang ourselves with by authorizing him to intervene in this civil war. Anyone who supports or votes thier approval on this ends up sitting in the boat next to what is easily one of, if not THE worst commander in chief in American history.

I would think even a Syria hawk would want to put this guy on the sidelines as much as possible and hope for the best, rather than giving him authorization and expecting the worst.
The counter argument is that for someone who thinks it's absolutely in our interest to remove Assad and prevent his WMD from falling into the hands of either Hezbollah or al Qaeda, a vote to support action at least preserves the chance that Obama can achieve these strategic goals whereas a vote against him almost certainly eliminates that possibility.

I'm not convinced by that argument because I have zero faith in Obama as a leader or a strategic thinker and because Obama himself has promised to limit his involvement to a shot across the bow or just enough to avoid being mocked and I'm not interested in supporting that nonsense. I vote no confidence, not because I think non-intervention is best for our interests but because Obama is a failure.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:32 PM   #34
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What Republicans would do if they were smart is go along with it then push the ugliest images that result from the strikes on the MSM and claim they were lied to for a war of convenience.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:16 PM   #35
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The US must bomb Syria, we are told, to maintain its “credibility” on the world stage. I don’t get it. The US government invaded, occupied, and destabilized Afghanistan and Iraq. The US military uses cluster bombs, white phosphorus, and depleted uranium shells, all banned or discouraged by international treaty or convention. The President endorses extrajudicial execution, extraordinary rendition, and torture, all prohibited by the Geneva Conventions. The NSA spies on its own citizens, in violation of US law, and denies it until caught. What credibility could the US government possibly have?
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If Congress votes no on a resolution calling for U.S. intervention in Syria’s civil war, says McCain, it would be “catastrophic” for U.S. credibility in the world.
Credibility? meh, we reelected Obama, nuff said.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:32 PM   #36
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We are helping terrorists. Period.
We don't negotiate with terrorists, but we do aid and abet and fund them.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:33 PM   #37
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Credibility? meh, we reelected Obama, nuff said.
Well that's the people...not the govt if ya' wanna be technical. Only a certain portion of the people. Romney would be calling for the same and the Republicans in Congress wouldn't resist one single bit if he were.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:36 PM   #38
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Wesley Clark is a certified idiot. He almost got us into a shooting war with Russia over Kosovo due to his idiocy.

He is good at political boot licking but I doubt anybody in the military gave him any information after he was relieved of command in Kosovo.
I think Clark's claims that he was told 7 countries were to be taken out in regime changes is accurate though. If anything, his testimony on that claim has been corroborated with other written documents such as the Clean Break paper and PNAC memo. No one is an idiot all the time.

I do agree he can lick boots politically because he has somewhat shifted his stand now that a Democrat is in office. So his motive was probably just partisan politics.
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Well that's the people...not the govt if ya' wanna be technical. Only a certain portion of the people. Romney would be calling for the same and the Republicans in Congress wouldn't resist one single bit if he were.
Romney would have had a coherent policy based on American strategic interests and he'd have already laid the groundwork for both domestic support and international cooperation.

He was warning us about the folly of Obama's make-nice-with-Russia initiative during the campaign so he wouldn't have been out maneuvered by Putin. It would be an entirely different, and more favorable, situation so it's no stretch to imagine that Republicans (and national security conscious democrats) would support him.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:52 PM   #40
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Romney would have had a coherent policy based on American strategic interests and he'd have already laid the groundwork for both domestic support and international cooperation.
That's not my point. My point is he'd be for military intervention and probably even more. I don't give a rats ass if he's more coherent or organized about his plans for mass murder. All you're arguing is "how" when I am arguing "do."
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:59 PM   #41
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BTW, did anyone know that Assad hates the Muslim Brotherhood?
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:04 PM   #42
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What Republicans would do if they were smart is go along with it then push the ugliest images that result from the strikes on the MSM and claim they were lied to for a war of convenience.
They should say something about how Obama is wanting us to supply Al Queda-backed rebels with bona fide assault weapons, even though he doesn't want to let law abiding Americans buy "assault weapons".
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That's not my point. My point is he'd be for military intervention and probably even more. I don't give a rats ass if he's more coherent or organized about his plans for mass murder. All you're arguing is "how" when I am arguing "do."
You were also suggesting that Republicans in Congress who oppose Obama would hypocritically support Romney and I'm explaining why it wouldn't be hypocritical.
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Refusing to help Assad also helps the rebels so do you want to intervene on Assad's side as a result of this news?
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How?
He's losing. Why do you think he used chemical weapons? He's desperate.
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