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Old 09-10-2013, 12:42 PM   #9841
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Wyatt family sucks until they actually have a real feud. Kinda like the Shield sucked until they actually had matches instead of run ins.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:23 PM   #9842
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Yes Daniel Bryan is not that over...lol JFC...

Also the Wyatt Family gimmick is the most original thing they've done with a character in ages...how you could be slamming that is beyond me unless you're just a troll.

Apparently we need moar Cena "RISE AGAINST" bullshit though...
I can tell reading comprehension is a tough skill for you....and that stick figure cartoons probably amuse you too.

And the Wyatt family gimmick, like the Big Show being broke and being forced to work lest he be fired isn't even close to being original. GTFO with that troll crap.

I don't like Cena anymore than anyone else, but at least he brought something to the table....and I could care less what you believe but it's evident the only reason DB is "over" is because there really isn't anyone else short of CM Punk to put over right now.

So tell me Jerm....who really is left on the roster right now who can produce the attendance/ticket sales, promotions, and merchandise sales that The Rock, John Cena. SCSA or even CM Punk can? No one....

They have the opportunity with Ziggler, Punk and The Shield but all 3 are being horrible misused.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:30 PM   #9843
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There is not much else they can do with the Shield.

Roman Reigns to me is just another useless big. Seth Rollins is another Justin Gabriel. The only one with star potential at all is Dean Ambrose. Reigns and Rollins cant stand on their own.

That's why they are lugging around the tag titles that they will eventually lose to PTP all because Darren Young came out as gay.

I don't know what the deal is with Ziggler. I have no idea why he is being buried and under all people, RVD. Ziggler right now should be carrying smack down.

RVD is old, washed up and irrelevant. The only way to make him relevant, was to pair him with Ricardo. What does that tell you?

As for the Wyatt Family. Their Gimmick is awesome. It is what the Brood COULD of been. I love it. Pretty soon they will add Kane back into that story line. I love the way this has gone. Husky Harris is super talented.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:36 PM   #9844
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They're doing with Ziggler what they've done with every face not named Cena for the last decade. They always put them on long losing streaks, because they think for some reason that gets them over. Then when they don't get over to an audience that sees them as a loser, they blame it on the talent and bury them in the midcard. We've seen it plenty of times with Punk and Bryan and this is at least the 2nd time for Ziggler. As for Bryan, without Cena's injury and without his relationship with the Bella (making him a figure on Total Divas) they wouldn't be doing anything with him, either. And it's a perfect opportunity for HHH and Stephanie to masturbate all over TV now, doing the old, tired corporate gimmick. The only thing missing is Vince (who was apparently supposed to be on last night).

The funniest part is when HHH and Vince come on TV and tell their audience that all these new people they should be trying to get over any way possible completely suck and reinforce that they just aren't as good as the guys from the 90s. It's so incredibly stupid, and they've been doing it for at least ten years. Yeah, that's a great way to create new talent, reinforce to your audience that they aren't as good as the old talent, and they never will be. And while we're at it, let's keep bringing that old talent back and using them to bury the new talent. It's a never-ending cycle.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:38 PM   #9845
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They're doing with Ziggler what they've done with every face not named Cena for the last decade. They always put them on long losing streaks, because they think for some reason that gets them over. Then when they don't get over to an audience that sees them as a loser, they blame it on the talent and bury them in the midcard. We've seen it plenty of times with Punk and Bryan and this is at least the 2nd time for Ziggler. As for Bryan, without Cena's injury and without his relationship with the Bella (making him a figure on Total Divas) they wouldn't be doing anything with him, either. And it's a perfect opportunity for HHH and Stephanie to masturbate all over TV now, doing the old, tired corporate gimmick.
And this is why I don't watch wrestling, period. It's all a bunch of crap where the skill of the wrestlers have no merit whatsoever. It's all about who these clowns want to promote so they can line their pockets.

Screw the WWE or whatever its name is.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:49 PM   #9846
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I can tell reading comprehension is a tough skill for you....and that stick figure cartoons probably amuse you too.
I can read and comprehend just fine...not a tough skill at all, dealing with dipshits who don't know what they're talking about is much more difficult.

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And the Wyatt family gimmick, like the Big Show being broke and being forced to work lest he be fired isn't even close to being original. GTFO with that troll crap.
Ok smart guy if the Wyatt Family gimmick is so unoriginal, name something in the last 15 years that is even close to it. The only thing it resembles is Waylon Mercy...although I doubt you even know who that is so go on and Wiki him now....I'll wait.

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I don't like Cena anymore than anyone else, but at least he brought something to the table....and I could care less what you believe but it's evident the only reason DB is "over" is because there really isn't anyone else short of CM Punk to put over right now.
What the **** does Cena bring to the table please??? Oh well I guess if you mean playing the same stale character for over a decade, giving us the same repetitive cookie cutter promos every time he's on the mic, and being the same locker room prick as HHH and UT were in their heydays then sure I guess he does "bring something to the table".

And if you *REALLY* believe the only reason Daniel Bryan is so over is because there's no one else to push then you're A) clearly not watching the product and B) delusional beyond belief.

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So tell me Jerm....who really is left on the roster right now who can produce the attendance/ticket sales, promotions, and merchandise sales that The Rock, John Cena. SCSA or even CM Punk can? No one....
I'm the biggest CM Punk guy there is but do not lump him in with The Rock and SCSA...he isn't anywhere close to their level. Hell Cena isn't there either for that matter.

Guys like SCSA and The Rock come around once in a very long, long time...it's beyond dumb to believe you can just plug in anyone and push them and they'll be at that level. It may be hard but you should try and be just a wee bit more level headed than that...times have changed.

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They have the opportunity with Ziggler, Punk and The Shield but all 3 are being horrible misused.
Ziggler is tremendous in the ring but his mouth gets him into trouble hence what you've been seeing lately, we've been there and done that with Punk and he's doing what he wants to do and that's work with Heyman, and The Shield is being used just fine...what else are you going to do with them until you break them up?

Come on man, you apparently have all the magical answers...lets hear them...
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:11 PM   #9847
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And I haven't even mentioned that one of the best mike guys on the roster right now is pretty much relegated to getting "revenge" on an overweight manager! (CM Punk)

And another of the great mike workers is pretty much being relegated to being squashed....(Ziggler)

Plus I am not sure what they saw in the Wyatt Family but that one is a waste...
All due respect, but we are watching different programs if Dolph Ziggler is a great mic worker and Bray Wyatt (IMO the BEST talker in WWE right now, including CM Punk) is a waste.
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:47 PM   #9848
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All due respect, but we are watching different programs if Dolph Ziggler is a great mic worker and Bray Wyatt (IMO the BEST talker in WWE right now, including CM Punk) is a waste.
We probably are watching different programs....what about Bray Wyatt has made him a great mic worker? He is almost as bad as listing to Kane work the mic...or Big Show. He may have some hidden talent but he hasn't done anything but act creepy and you can pick a few other guys on the roster to fill that role.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:05 PM   #9849
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Ok smart guy if the Wyatt Family gimmick is so unoriginal, name something in the last 15 years that is even close to it. The only thing it resembles is Waylon Mercy...although I doubt you even know who that is so go on and Wiki him now....I'll wait.
The Brood...as mentioned before....Paul Bearer and the Undertaker/Kane....The Vachons....(I don't have to stay in the 15 years, I've been watching every version of WWE there has been since the Superstar Billy Graham days). There have been several "freaky" family gimmicks over the years.


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What the **** does Cena bring to the table please??? Oh well I guess if you mean playing the same stale character for over a decade, giving us the same repetitive cookie cutter promos every time he's on the mic, and being the same locker room prick as HHH and UT were in their heydays then sure I guess he does "bring something to the table".
This one is so easy to answer it shows you were angry when you typed it....the answer:

Money....his persona that was created sells tickets/merchandise/appearances like never before. The fact that you don't recognize it or want to ignore it speaks volumes.

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And if you *REALLY* believe the only reason Daniel Bryan is so over is because there's no one else to push then you're A) clearly not watching the product and B) delusional beyond belief.
I'm not the only person on here that thinks the only reason DB is getting a push now is because Cena is gone. And watch what happens to him when Cena gets back. He will be back to the mid-card person that WWE believes he is.

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I'm the biggest CM Punk guy there is but do not lump him in with The Rock and SCSA...he isn't anywhere close to their level. Hell Cena isn't there either for that matter.

Guys like SCSA and The Rock come around once in a very long, long time...it's beyond dumb to believe you can just plug in anyone and push them and they'll be at that level. It may be hard but you should try and be just a wee bit more level headed than that...times have changed.
Evidently you didn't see Steve Austin long before the SCSA time frame, i.e. the Hollywood Blondes. If you find the right guy and the right gimmick and meld them you get a Rock, Stone Cold and a Cena. Hell Hulk Hogan was just a normal guy named Terry Boulder before he became the Hulkster and sad enough to say his merchandise still sells.
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The Brood & early Taker/Paul Bearer are nowhere near what The Wyatt Family gimmick is but ok...
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We probably are watching different programs....what about Bray Wyatt has made him a great mic worker? He is almost as bad as listing to Kane work the mic...or Big Show. He may have some hidden talent but he hasn't done anything but act creepy and you can pick a few other guys on the roster to fill that role.
I guess if you haven't been watching him on NXT for the last year like I have then you won't know just how good he is on the mic. That's fair.

He talks as he wrestles: utterly, completely within character.

Here's his goodbye promo (starts at 3:11ish):



Then of course, there's this WWE vid of him explaining Sister Abigail.

I could go on, but he's absolutely in the Punk/Ambrose class of promo guys. Only person above that tier is, of course, Heyman.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:56 PM   #9852
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I guess if you haven't been watching him on NXT for the last year like I have then you won't know just how good he is on the mic. That's fair.



I could go on, but he's absolutely in the Punk/Ambrose class of promo guys. Only person above that tier is, of course, Heyman.
Those are good...and you are right, I don't watch NXT so I haven't seen any of those promos. But so far they haven't really done much with him on WWE IMO.

Now Dean Ambrose....I like him, he works the mike well. I think they should never let Reigns or Rollins near a microphone. (Part of me believes the only reason Reigns has a job is because he is related to The Rock)
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Those are good...and you are right, I don't watch NXT so I haven't seen any of those promos. But so far they haven't really done much with him on WWE IMO.

Now Dean Ambrose....I like him, he works the mike well. I think they should never let Reigns or Rollins near a microphone. (Part of me believes the only reason Reigns has a job is because he is related to The Rock)
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WWE Hall-of-Fame announcer Jim Ross -- the voice of the organization for two decades -- has decided to hang up his microphone and retire, so says the WWE.

Ross called some of the biggest matches in WWE history -- including Stone Cold's epic battles with Vince McMahon, the rise of The Rock ... and the famous "Hell In a Cell' match when Undertaker launched Mick Foley through a table from the top of a steel cage.



But Ross didn't just do the play-by-play -- he also came up with some pretty iconic wrestling nicknames ... referring to Stone Cold Steve Austin as the "Texas Rattlesnake" and Triple H as the "Cerebral Assassin."

He was also famous for shouting phrases like "By god, that man has a family" when wrestlers were getting their asses kicked in the ring.

According to the WWE, Ross wants to spend more time focusing on his "personal business endeavors" -- and by that, we're guessing he means his growing BBQ sauce company.

For the record, it's delicious ... but JR, you'll be missed.
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All due respect, but we are watching different programs if Dolph Ziggler is a great mic worker and Bray Wyatt (IMO the BEST talker in WWE right now, including CM Punk) is a waste.
I agree. I like Ziggler but he is not great on the mic.
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