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Chiefnj · 03-03-2005, 09:30 AM

It is being discussed elsewhere that St. John on 810 this morning said there were issues with Trotter's physical given by KC? Any truth to this from anyone who listens to the show?

KCTitus · 03-03-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The Denver Broncos.

I fixed my typo, BTW.

I hope that you run them for profit only, then...LOL!

nmt1 · 03-03-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

That's not the question. The question is whether you're ('you' in a general sense) willing to pay for 8 games if they're not competitive, which they have not been for the greater part of the last decade, like it or not.

I certainly wouldn't. I wouldn't pay just to see the Chiefs play a game I didn't think they could win. And I think the longer this string of mediocrity goes, the more difficulty they'll have filling the stands.

Which is ultimately why I don't believe they don't care about winning, and only about profit: because they DO want to fill the stands. And the only way you can do that is by winning. That's the inherent fallacy of that argument. People will not pay to see a loser, and they know it.

See post #127.

keg in kc · 03-03-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nmt1

I don't disagree with you at all. The real problem is that a significant portion of the Chiefs fanbase is not so upset with the team for "not winning anything in years" that they have stopped going to the games. Only when those fans stop going to the games will things change.

That's already changing. The waiting list for season tickets has eroded to nothing (as I understand it). The main problem is that the average fan, in a lot of cases, has been priced out, and a lot of the season ticket base seems to be of the "event" persuasion rather than the "fan" persuasion (not that you can't be a fan while attending an event....). But that won't last forever, either, if they don't reclaim the so-called "glory" of the 90s. The last 7-10 years have not been good, and Arrowhead isn't what it once was. People are losing faith, losing hope, even the most ardent fans. That's just reality. Loyalty will continue to erode the longer we hang around .500.

Wallcrawler · 03-03-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nmt1

You do expect more than I do. I subscribe to the addage: Expect little and you will receive much.

Ha ha. Yeah right.

Youve received exactly what the rest of us have genius. No playoff wins in 13 years, and no superbowl appearances in over 30.

If you call that receiving much, you should set the crack pipe down at your feet, and slowly back away.

nmt1 · 03-03-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If you have such a lax attitude about the Chiefs then why even bother debating?

I find the debate entertaining. I like to rib folks too.
I don't think my attitude about the Chiefs is lax. I choose not to worry about things I have no control over.

bricks · 03-03-2005, 12:10 PM

what kills me as a fan of this team, is, the fact we missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years, and, we still keep the same GM. Our drafts have stunk over the past years, and, we still keep the same guy in charge, Lynn Stiles. I don't get it

You can only be so loyal with ppl, and if they cant get the job done then your loyalty becomes a fault. I think that's the case with Lamar, he's too too too loyal to an absolute fault. Carl isn't doing his job, Stiles has drafted ineffective players. Carl shoulda fired Lyn, Lamar shoulda fired Carl. Our organization needs to grow a set of balls and fire those that aren't performing.
In turn, ppl aren't happy what else can I say.

chiefqueen · 03-03-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nmt1

Don't forget Carl drafting Blackledge.

Blackledge was drafted by the 3 "clowns" that ran the team b/f CP got here. I can't remember one guy's name, the other two wer Schaaf & Steadman.

nmt1 · 03-03-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

That's already changing. The waiting list for season tickets has eroded to nothing (as I understand it). The main problem is that the average fan, in a lot of cases, has been priced out, and a lot of the season ticket base seems to be of the "event" persuasion rather than the "fan" persuasion (not that you can't be a fan while attending an event....). But that won't last forever, either, if they don't reclaim the so-called "glory" of the 90s. The last 7-10 years have not been good, and Arrowhead isn't what it once was. People are losing faith, losing hope, even the most ardent fans. That's just reality. Loyalty will continue to erode the longer we hang around .500.

I agree.

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stinger

Ha ha. Yeah right.

Youve received exactly what the rest of us have genius. No playoff wins in 13 years, and no superbowl appearances in over 30.

If you call that receiving much, you should set the crack pipe down at your feet, and slowly back away.

Did you bother to see what he said about EXPECTATIONS?

Maybe he expected to never win more than 6 games a season. If so, he's gotten more than expected SEVERAL times.

HC_Chief · 03-03-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nmt1

I don't disagree with you at all. The real problem is that a significant portion of the Chiefs fanbase is not so upset with the team for "not winning anything in years" that they have stopped going to the games. Only when those fans stop going to the games will things change.

Agreed.
I believe they are starting to feel it now. As someone already pointed out earlier, the waiting lists of the 90s have evaporated. Interest, though still high, has dipped. Grumblings are heard more & more.

I know I've done MY part: I did not spend ONE PENNY on Chiefs clothing, tickets, or other merchandise last year, nor would I allow my family to purchase it for me. I attended one game (Christmas -v- the faid) thanks to a free pass in a suite, or I would have boycotted Arrowhead entirely.

I'm fed up with them.

**CosmicPal** · 03-03-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

That's already changing.

I know this first-hand. My father is in town for some skiing, and he indicated to me last night while we were watching the KU-KSU game he was considering giving up his season tickets for the first time in thirty some years. He and his friends, who've all been season ticket holders since the Texans moved to KC are all now considering giving up their tickets.

I doubt he does- but, I know there must be a lot of season ticket holders who must be grumbling about the product on the field they've been paying for- for so many years

KCTitus · 03-03-2005, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefqueen

Blackledge was drafted by the 3 "clowns" that ran the team b/f CP got here. I can't remember one guy's name, the other two wer Schaaf & Steadman.

Shh!

**gblowfish** · 03-03-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefqueen

Blackledge was drafted by the 3 "clowns" that ran the team b/f CP got here. I can't remember one guy's name, the other two wer Schaaf & Steadman.

Actually clown #3 who swung the decision to take Sackledge was John "Sleepy" Mackovic, the NFL's only narcoleptic coach. The story is here:
http://www.georgeblowfish.com/chiefspage5.html

htismaqe · 03-03-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Agreed.
I believe they are starting to feel it now. As someone already pointed out earlier, the waiting lists of the 90s have evaporated. Interest, though still high, has dipped. Grumblings are heard more & more.

I know I've done MY part: I did not spend ONE PENNY on Chiefs clothing, tickets, or other merchandise last year, nor would I allow my family to purchase it for me. I attended one game (Christmas -v- the faid) thanks to a free pass in a suite, or I would have boycotted Arrowhead entirely.

I'm fed up with them.

I'm right there with ya.

nmt1 · 03-03-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stinger

Ha ha. Yeah right.

Youve received exactly what the rest of us have genius. No playoff wins in 13 years, and no superbowl appearances in over 30.

If you call that receiving much, you should set the crack pipe down at your feet, and slowly back away.

You don't understand how it works. I was like you before. I got so upset about the playoff loss to Denver back in 97 that I didn't speak for a couple of hours. I decided after some thought that I was acting like a spoiled brat and that it is stupid to be so upset about something I have no control over and something that has a very small effect on my life.
I love the Chiefs but I don't need them to prop up my psyche.

You obviously don't get the deeper meaning of the phrase. I'm less disappointed than you because I have lesser or no expectations.

03-03-2005, 09:30 AM
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Anyone listening to 810 It is being discussed elsewhere that St. John on 810 this morning said there were issues with Trotter's physical given by KC? Any truth to this from anyone who listens to the show?
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03-03-2005, 12:10 PM	#141
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	what kills me as a fan of this team, is, the fact we missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years, and, we still keep the same GM. Our drafts have stunk over the past years, and, we still keep the same guy in charge, Lynn Stiles. I don't get it You can only be so loyal with ppl, and if they cant get the job done then your loyalty becomes a fault. I think that's the case with Lamar, he's too too too loyal to an absolute fault. Carl isn't doing his job, Stiles has drafted ineffective players. Carl shoulda fired Lyn, Lamar shoulda fired Carl. Our organization needs to grow a set of balls and fire those that aren't performing. In turn, ppl aren't happy what else can I say.
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