NFL Draft At number 3 the Chiefs should take a QB... - Page 10

Alphaman · 01-03-2009, 09:42 AM

However, Chiefs fans should not expect the same results as those delivered by Flacco and Ryan. I say that for mainly one reason. Both Flacco and Ryan finished their senior years at their respective schools. That level of maturity and leadership experience certainly helped them in their preparation for their rookie year in the NFL.

Both Stafford and Bradford will be underclassmen if they come out. They won't have the same level of maturity or leadership experience when they hit the NFL. I know they are both leaders, but in college being a senior in the lockerroom carries a lot weight and respect even if there is a talented QB in the lockerroom as well.

Take Mizzou for example. Last season Chase Daniel was a leader on the team, but THE leaders on the team were Pig Brown and Martin Rucker. Seniors carry the big stick in college.

HIChief · 01-03-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

Good. Let's pick a senior DE first, then.

I'm with you on this one, LUV.

Coogs · 01-04-2009, 11:55 AM

In kind of a related question for the QB crowd like I am...

What if Stafford is the only QB to come out this draft? Would you consider a move up to #1 with the Lions to get him?

It is a question that won't have to be answered until the 15th of this month when the underclassmen have to be decided on their choice, but it is something to maybe think about over the next few days.

L.A. Chieffan · 01-04-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

All I have to say is if these guys don't come out or we aren't in position to get a QB then we better take Taylor Mays cause a OT wouldn't be a good pick for this team and those DE's just don't do it for me.

You wanna take a free safety with our first pick?

What school does he go to? Oh yeah.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-04-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

You wanna take a free safety with our first pick?

What school does he go to? Oh yeah.

I hate USC, but I realize that Mays is a can't-miss pick. I don't think I want the Chiefs to take him, but he will no doubt be a borderline top 5 pick. It's not just him saying that. I would much rather Mays than Maualuga. I was high on Maualuga for a while, but I've lost that.

Wilson8 · 01-04-2009, 12:38 PM

I’m sure this has been said many times before in this thread or other threads, but I will say it again. The quarterback position is the most important position on the football team. NFL salaries show this to be true. The position also requires the most time to groom and train for the team to be successful. IF Stafford, Bradford, or Sanchez looks to be future franchise quarterbacks, they have to be selected with the Chiefs 1st round pick. Defensive ends, safeties, linebackers do not require as much grooming and can be picked either next year or in later rounds this year. I know selecting a bad QB can set the team back a few years but also waiting until 2010 to select a 1st round QB sets them back at least a year.

**MahiMike** · 01-04-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

then why the hell is everyone giving up on Thigpen already?

Not me. This just shows you what happens every year with the draft. Fans are always looking at the cute puppies once their dog has grown up a bit.

CupidStunt · 01-04-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Stafford has been a 3 year starter for Georgia, I believe the kid will make the transition rather smoothly.

I don't. He can't even read a college defense.

I'm fine with Stafford, but he needs a year on the bench. One more year of sucking hard, a nice draft/FA period in '10 then Stafford goes balls-out to win in his second year.

milkman · 01-04-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

I don't. He can't even read a college defense.

I'm fine with Stafford, but he needs a year on the bench. One more year of sucking hard, a nice draft/FA period in '10 then Stafford goes balls-out to win in his second year.

I actually think that's a solid plan.

He's 20 years old.

He could use a year to mature and grow.

Wilson8 · 01-04-2009, 12:57 PM

I don’t think the Chiefs should give up on Tyler Thigpen, but they should not give him the keys to the kingdom and tell him he is king. Draft a very good college quarterback and have competition. If Tyler continues to grow it gives the Chiefs strength at that position and allows them future trade possibilities. It takes time to groom and grow young quarterbacks. It would not be bad to have Tyler quarterbacking next year unless the only reason he is there is because we have no one else.

StcChief · 01-04-2009, 01:13 PM

with all our other problems... DE,MLB, RT shall we go on? QB is next year if Thiggy isn't the answer long term.

L.A. Chieffan · 01-04-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I hate USC, but I realize that Mays is a can't-miss pick. I don't think I want the Chiefs to take him, but he will no doubt be a borderline top 5 pick. It's not just him saying that. I would much rather Mays than Maualuga. I was high on Maualuga for a while, but I've lost that.

Maualuga is the better pick over Mays and here is the video evidence to prove it:

**the Talking Can** · 01-04-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Maualuga is the better pick over Mays and here is the video evidence to prove it:

classy

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-04-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

with all our other problems... DE,MLB, RT shall we go on? QB is next year if Thiggy isn't the answer long term.

If one can get a franchise QB is now, you shouldn't ever hesitate to pick him.

mylittlepony · 01-04-2009, 03:57 PM

I think it has to be QB or LT as those are the BPA. I've been high on Mays but I've been waiting for him to break out. He has not been called to blitz alot and he doesnt have the ball skills to be a difference maker. He has every physical tool you can want but when assessing NFL talents I think a player like Eric Berry might be a more desired prospect despite not having the meassurables.

Mays is not a Sean Taylor and thats really what you want when drafting a top 3. Now I wouldnt be upset with the pick but its a leap of faith (he is going to be very good but probably not great).

smittysbar · 01-04-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

I think it has to be QB or LT as those are the BPA. I've been high on Mays but I've been waiting for him to break out. He has not been called to blitz alot and he doesnt have the ball skills to be a difference maker. He has every physical tool you can want but when assessing NFL talents I think a player like Eric Berry might be a more desired prospect despite not having the meassurables.

Mays is not a Sean Taylor and thats really what you want when drafting a top 3. Now I wouldnt be upset with the pick but its a leap of faith (he is going to be very good but probably not great).

Why the **** would you go LT.

01-03-2009, 09:42 AM
Alphaman Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Austin, TX, USA Casino cash: $10004900	At number 3 the Chiefs should take a QB... However, Chiefs fans should not expect the same results as those delivered by Flacco and Ryan. I say that for mainly one reason. Both Flacco and Ryan finished their senior years at their respective schools. That level of maturity and leadership experience certainly helped them in their preparation for their rookie year in the NFL. Both Stafford and Bradford will be underclassmen if they come out. They won't have the same level of maturity or leadership experience when they hit the NFL. I know they are both leaders, but in college being a senior in the lockerroom carries a lot weight and respect even if there is a talented QB in the lockerroom as well. Take Mizzou for example. Last season Chase Daniel was a leader on the team, but THE leaders on the team were Pig Brown and Martin Rucker. Seniors carry the big stick in college.
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01-04-2009, 11:55 AM	#137
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2045651	In kind of a related question for the QB crowd like I am... What if Stafford is the only QB to come out this draft? Would you consider a move up to #1 with the Lions to get him? It is a question that won't have to be answered until the 15th of this month when the underclassmen have to be decided on their choice, but it is something to maybe think about over the next few days.
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01-04-2009, 12:38 PM	#140
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2917557	I’m sure this has been said many times before in this thread or other threads, but I will say it again. The quarterback position is the most important position on the football team. NFL salaries show this to be true. The position also requires the most time to groom and train for the team to be successful. IF Stafford, Bradford, or Sanchez looks to be future franchise quarterbacks, they have to be selected with the Chiefs 1st round pick. Defensive ends, safeties, linebackers do not require as much grooming and can be picked either next year or in later rounds this year. I know selecting a bad QB can set the team back a few years but also waiting until 2010 to select a 1st round QB sets them back at least a year.
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01-04-2009, 12:57 PM	#144
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2917557	I don’t think the Chiefs should give up on Tyler Thigpen, but they should not give him the keys to the kingdom and tell him he is king. Draft a very good college quarterback and have competition. If Tyler continues to grow it gives the Chiefs strength at that position and allows them future trade possibilities. It takes time to groom and grow young quarterbacks. It would not be bad to have Tyler quarterbacking next year unless the only reason he is there is because we have no one else.
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01-04-2009, 01:13 PM	#145
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	with all our other problems... DE,MLB, RT shall we go on? QB is next year if Thiggy isn't the answer long term. __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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01-04-2009, 03:57 PM	#149
mylittlepony Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Casino cash: $10005855	I think it has to be QB or LT as those are the BPA. I've been high on Mays but I've been waiting for him to break out. He has not been called to blitz alot and he doesnt have the ball skills to be a difference maker. He has every physical tool you can want but when assessing NFL talents I think a player like Eric Berry might be a more desired prospect despite not having the meassurables. Mays is not a Sean Taylor and thats really what you want when drafting a top 3. Now I wouldnt be upset with the pick but its a leap of faith (he is going to be very good but probably not great).
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