Chiefs Is it starting to become pathetic how Patriots-like we're trying to be? - Page 10

TigerPig · 10:51 PM

I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weis, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!"

Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing?

FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care.

HotRoute · 01-07-2010, 03:18 AM

Why shouldn't we, the kc way hasn't really been working too great

Mile High Mania · 01-07-2010, 05:53 AM

I think it happens with most coaches and GMs... watch what happens in Washington, you're going to see a lot of faces and names that are linked to Denver show up.

Nobody knows if it's a good or a bad thing yet, but ex NE staff have been more bad than good in their new roles.

ILChief · 01-07-2010, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, because the guy that hired Clancy Pendergast is a real ****ing genius.

Haley took over so late there wasn't really many options. Schwartz was hired roughly a month before Haley. He had more options. I'm not saying Pendergast is a good DC but given the alternatives and his defense in AZ had played well in the playoffs, it wasn't a terrible hire. If he is DC next year then that will be an issue

**BossChief** · 01-07-2010, 06:54 AM

Im wondering if Romeo will get signed before the Dallas situation plays out.

Amnorix · 01-07-2010, 06:55 AM

You'd prefer to be more Raiders-like?

**BossChief** · 01-07-2010, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

You'd prefer to be more Raiders-like?

u talking 2me?

TheGuardian · 01-07-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

A mind-reader, and a backup LB.

Damn, you're overflowing with talent.

I was never backup you dumbass. And you don't know shit about football either.

**mlyonsd** · 01-07-2010, 07:45 AM

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Is it starting to become pathetic how Patriots-like we're trying to be?

As opposed to that awesome smelly old sock Chief smell we've had for several years?

rocks · 01-07-2010, 07:51 AM

Yea it would really suck to win a few SB's!!!!

OmahaChief · 01-07-2010, 07:54 AM

We can look like the Patriots for all I can, if it leads to more wins. I am happy that we might be getting Weiss and Crennel they are both proven commodities are OC and DC whereas our HC is a proven jackass.

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-07-2010, 07:54 AM

Coaches hire other coaches, especially top level assistance based on ability, familiarity and compatibility.

So, you get a ton of new coaches that hired other guys that they have worked with before. This is not uncommon and is a good thing.

Any new coach hires people he has worked with before. Rarely ever do you see a new coach hire a coordinator that he hasn't worked with.

It is good because coaches have to spend so much time with each other and have to be on the same page.... and they have to trust one another to do their jobs.

I am not a huge fan of Romeo's...... but, I know he is a good football mind, and I know that it is more important than anything else that the entire team be on the same page.

There are tons of ways to win football games, but you have to pick one and stick with it.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-07-2010, 08:12 AM

Patsification. Its like 9 yrs ago when we started 'Ramsification'. Then, in '93 we tried to be 49ers east. Who's next?

**ChiTown** · 01-07-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Patsification. Its like 9 yrs ago when we started 'Ramsification'. Then, in '93 we tried to be 49ers east. Who's next?

I was hoping to avoid the Lionsification phase, although, we appear to be ass-deep into it right now............

TheGuardian · 01-07-2010, 08:26 AM

OTWP58 has to be the dumbest MF'er posting here.

Ralphy Boy · 01-07-2010, 08:56 AM

I really don't give a crap what they think. I care if it produces positive results.
Every coach & personnel guy that moves to a new franchise does the same thing. You think Shanahan won't try to get a few coaches he's worked with before? Of course he will, just like Parcells did everywhere he went. The media can call it whatever they want, I heard a "analyst" on the radio say last night that Weis was a Pioli hire, not a Haley one and that Haley should be looking over his shoulder. Fact is that most of them don't know what they are talking about anymore than the rest of us, so I don't hold them in any hire regard than I do any of you.

You hire the best people for the job whenever you get the chance to hire them. Weis & Crennel are the best available right now, it doesn't mean anything more than that.

01-06-2010, 10:12 PM
TigerPig One with the Force Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	Is it starting to become pathetic how Patriots-like we're trying to be? I mean, do other teams and analysts think, "They are so smart for going after Weis, Cassel, and (possibly) Crennel, to try and bring that winning attitude to KC!" Or are they thinking, "How pathetic, they can't even make their own decisions on coaching and are just trying to copy New England as much as possible!" Its pretty obvious we're ripping off the Patriots' philosophy. We're not copying it, we're literally trying to take the exact personnel and players they had and win with them here. Is this a smart, tactful thing? Or a sad and pathetic thing? FTR I don't see a problem with it. If we start winning, they can change Cassel's name to Tom Brady and put Haley in a huge hoodie for all I care. Last edited by TigerPig; 01-06-2010 at 10:51 PM..
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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Coaches hire other coaches, especially top level assistance based on ability, familiarity and compatibility. So, you get a ton of new coaches that hired other guys that they have worked with before. This is not uncommon and is a good thing. Any new coach hires people he has worked with before. Rarely ever do you see a new coach hire a coordinator that he hasn't worked with. It is good because coaches have to spend so much time with each other and have to be on the same page.... and they have to trust one another to do their jobs. I am not a huge fan of Romeo's...... but, I know he is a good football mind, and I know that it is more important than anything else that the entire team be on the same page. There are tons of ways to win football games, but you have to pick one and stick with it.
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BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Patsification. Its like 9 yrs ago when we started 'Ramsification'. Then, in '93 we tried to be 49ers east. Who's next?
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01-07-2010, 08:56 AM	#150
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	I really don't give a crap what they think. I care if it produces positive results. Every coach & personnel guy that moves to a new franchise does the same thing. You think Shanahan won't try to get a few coaches he's worked with before? Of course he will, just like Parcells did everywhere he went. The media can call it whatever they want, I heard a "analyst" on the radio say last night that Weis was a Pioli hire, not a Haley one and that Haley should be looking over his shoulder. Fact is that most of them don't know what they are talking about anymore than the rest of us, so I don't hold them in any hire regard than I do any of you. You hire the best people for the job whenever you get the chance to hire them. Weis & Crennel are the best available right now, it doesn't mean anything more than that.
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