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Old 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM  
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Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:
"And KC would never take [safety] that high."
Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:08 PM   #136
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No shit?

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Old 03-16-2010, 12:08 PM   #137
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By your argument, we should be winning the Super Bowl every year.

Since 2000, the Chiefs have selected the following positions with their first 1st Round pick:

DT: 2
DE: 2
WR: 2
RB: 1
LB: 1

How's that been working out for us? Did we win the Super Bowl and no one told me?
We certainly didn't win one when we had THE GREATEST OFFENSIVE LINE IN FOOTBALL HISTORY.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:10 PM   #138
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By your argument, we should be winning the Super Bowl every year.

Since 2000, the Chiefs have selected the following positions with their first 1st Round pick:

DT: 2
DE: 2
WR: 2
RB: 1
LB: 1

How's that been working out for us? Did we win the Super Bowl and no one told me?

no, we didnt' win.
but, i'll take my chances following the same / similar strategy as the teams who have won the last 10 Super Bowls.
I wouldn't spend a 1st on a OL unless I was at #20 or beyond AND it filled an immediate need along an already established/good OL.


and, my argument you're referencing isn't correct. this isn't a logic puzzle ("all zeebs are zobs. All zobs are zopes. Therefore all zopes are zeebs. true/false").
My opinion is simply the statistics don't lie.

It applies with the OL and 1st round draft pick correlation, and 1st Round QBs.
There will be exceptions, but the percentage is very small. Therefore, I'll play the better percentages.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:10 PM   #139
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We certainly didn't win one when we had THE GREATEST OFFENSIVE LINE IN FOOTBALL HISTORY.
We didn't win one with Joe Montana, Neil Smith, DT, Ross, Albert, Cherry, TG, either. We probably shouldn't address those positions early.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:12 PM   #140
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:12 PM   #141
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We didn't win one with Joe Montana, Neil Smith, DT, Ross, Albert, Cherry, TG, either. We probably shouldn't address those positions early.
We got the closest with a great D and a franchise quarterback.

We haven't won a single playoff game since we lacked those two elements.

Surely it's just coincidental.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:12 PM   #142
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We didn't win one with Joe Montana, Neil Smith, DT, Ross, Albert, Cherry, TG, either. We probably shouldn't address those positions early.
We didn't draft Joe Montana. If we had, maybe things would have turned out differently.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:13 PM   #143
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:14 PM   #144
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We didn't win one with Joe Montana, Neil Smith, DT, Ross, Albert, Cherry, TG, either. We probably shouldn't address those positions early.
???

What position haven't we addressed early in the draft?

Maybe we should try that approach?
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???

What position haven't we addressed early in the draft?

Maybe we should try that approach?

Crazy thinking.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:18 PM   #146
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???

What position haven't we addressed early in the draft?

Maybe we should try that approach?
But but we traded a first round pick for Joe doesn't that count
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???

What position haven't we addressed early in the draft?

Maybe we should try that approach?
You really want to reach for Clausen?
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sorry...I should rephrase..

if you were in a position where you couldn't trade down and you were basically in a spot where you would be reaching no matter what:
would you rather reach for a QB?
or reach for a 5tech?

where would Jackson fallen to?
where will Clausen fall to?
how much of a reach for Clausen?

If he's rated at #8 on their board; it's not much of a reach considering the position.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:23 PM   #150
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Way to change the subject after getting your ass handed to you.
Since I was responding to a post that was two pages prior to the Colts example, which wasn't even posted when I responded to Hamas' post, I hardly see how it would be "changing the subject." You're not very perceptive, are you.

However, if the Colts get beat by the Jets this next year, will I be vindicated?
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