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Old 09-16-2010, 11:56 AM  
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Kansas City’s victory over the Chargers was a total fluke. Todd Haley and Scott Pioli refuse to showcase Jamaal Charles solely because Herm Edwards drafted him. KC’s front seven can’t pressure the quarterback. The rain and the sloppiness of Arrowhead Stadium’s grass stopped the Chargers. The Chiefs have no No. 1 receiver or quarterback
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:19 PM   #136
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:23 PM   #137
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what was it...259 @ Denver?

need a neck rub, jwhit?
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:57 PM   #138
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what was it...259 @ Denver?

need a neck rub, jwhit?
that would be a whole lot of rubbing...

whitlock's neck is jighnormous...

like the rest of him...
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:03 PM   #139
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that would be a whole lot of rubbing...

whitlock's neck is jighnormous...

like the rest of him...
that's called rubberneckin baby
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:05 PM   #140
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that's called rubberneckin baby
No, no, no.

That's called blubberneckin'.
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:13 PM   #141
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man I really really hate Whitlock
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:57 PM   #142
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So you think that 11 carries was simply because of the shoulder injury that he did have? Because I don't see it like that.

I think there's something else why Jamaal isn't getting more carries and why a less talent is starting. Whatever the reason, it's bad logic.

I agree that between 15-20 carries a game sounds great for now. But I don't think it's going to happen.
Given three more 3rd down conversions and Charles would likely have hit 15 touches. I can understand the thought that maybe Haley/Weis wanted to limit his touches based on a fumble history and a wet ball, but I have yet to go back and actually watch the game again and see if he got most of his carries before/after or during the rain.

Personally, I don't really care who starts, but I do believe Charles should get 60-70% of the touches between him and Jones. Hell, for all I know, Weis wants to start Jones so that Charles comes in fresh and gets rolling with 10 straight touches when the opposing defense is starting to tire.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:03 PM   #143
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I think this is potentially as big as the Monday Night game. If they win, I think Arrowhead's packed again for the San Francisco game, and with the crowd behind them they have a real shot at a 3-0 start before they inevitably lose to Indianapolis and Houston. If they lose, I don't think people show for the 49ers game, and I think they're in a little more trouble.

So basically, a win makes them a 2-0 home team with some momentum. A loss makes them a 1-1 squad that won a fluke game (it wasn't, I don't think, but that's what it will be seen as) and is in the middle of yet another losing season.

The difference between people seeing change and signs of hope, or suffering through more of the same, that's what I think Sunday at Cleveland is.
I couldn't agree more. This next game is huge.
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Given three more 3rd down conversions and Charles would likely have hit 15 touches. I can understand the thought that maybe Haley/Weis wanted to limit his touches based on a fumble history and a wet ball, but I have yet to go back and actually watch the game again and see if he got most of his carries before/after or during the rain.

Personally, I don't really care who starts, but I do believe Charles should get 60-70% of the touches between him and Jones. Hell, for all I know, Weis wants to start Jones so that Charles comes in fresh and gets rolling with 10 straight touches when the opposing defense is starting to tire.
That's a great strategy.

I see one small problem with it however.

The defense isn't going to tire if the Chiefs offense is consistently going 3 and out.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:10 PM   #145
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That's a great strategy.

I see one small problem with it however.

The defense isn't going to tire if the Chiefs offense is consistently going 3 and out.
Well, yeah, there is that.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:17 PM   #146
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I just want to say, I think it's hilarious that it is pointed out that the rain is what stopped the Chargers...So Whitlock is saying it wasn't an even playing field? Weren't both teams playing in the rain?
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both teams played on the same field. One team didn't give up several long returns on kicks. One team didn't fumble the ball on the others side of the field. One team didn't give up a long td run. One team had 4 chances inside to 10 to tie or take the lead and didn't convert. Really wet ball? Want to use that excuse for Cassel? The deciding plays had nothing to do with with the conditions because both teams played in them.
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One could make the argument that the team hurt the most by the weather was the Chiefs, because Cassel's limited effectiveness was even futher limited by the wind.
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:30 PM   #149
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One could make the argument that the team hurt the most by the weather was the Chiefs, because Cassel's limited effectiveness was even futher limited by the wind.
the fact anyone says that if it wasn't for this play or that play, means one team made them.. The other didn't. Pretty plain and simple.
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I equate this to the Mizzou / Nebraska game last season. Damned thing was played in a monsoon. The "if it wasn't for's..." and "But if's..." are pointless.

That's the way it was when my team was on the losing end of things, and it'll damn sure be that way when my team's on the winning end.
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