Is Hunt Telling The Truth?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Not that anyone asked for it, but here's my personal opinion of what's really happening:

Clark has thrown the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and is doing his due diligence while waiting for an answer - which also buys him some time to resolve this Pioli legal bullshit, but prepares him if Cowher was to decline. Possible that he's had similar discussions with guys like Billick and Gruden, but I'd bet it's Cowher's job to decline.

If Bill Cowher wants to come back to coaching, he'll be the next HC of the KC Chiefs. If Cowher is smart, he grabs Omar Khan from Pittsburgh to handle the cap/contracts, while Cowher handles personnel.

As The Bad Guy said in another thread - this has to be a 3-run home run hire for Clark. If Clark hires a guy like Koetter, Horton, Ferentz, etc - he's looking at another 4 years of an empty Arrowhead.

yup


my fear is cowher = alex smith

clark has already spoken in weasle tongue about fixing the qb position

but i can't blame clark for wanting the great white whale..

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

I don't believe the Ferentz garbage, but I do expect Pioli (not Clarke's ll hire one of his cronies to HC this team next season. They are going to hunker down another season.

If they like Koetter, it's going to get done right away. If not, I expect them to wait for Josh McD and he'll be the HC.

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

They'll likely keep Gary Gibbs at DC running the 34, let him pick and choose his staff and figure in the new OC & staff on that side of the ball. I am hopeful the ST coach was RC's guy, because he was no good for this ST unit.

That's about it. As for whether I'd be turning my back on the Chiefs if I find out Clark is lying -- omitting the truth during an explanation is lying in my book -- Clark's sidestepping comment with regard to Pioli was a ****ing lie -- as of this point, Clark is fine with Pioli continuing to run football operations for the team.

Unless I see evidence Clark was not lying, I'll go with Clark is a big ass liar -- just another dishonest "businessman" and we all know the new rule$ on greed post '80's. He ain't the first liar we've been around and really, it's sports -- not like it effects me much. I stopped giving the Chiefs my financial support a year ago. Hell, what Goodell and all the owners have done to this game bothers me more.

But hey, if you're gonna lie, try and be clever about it. I do get annoyed at stupid lies.

This is so ****ing drivel. LOLWUT? Why would you notbbelieve Clark is interested in running the Chiefs the way they do it in Pittsburgh?

What on earth makes you think Clark sidestepped Pioli questions?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

I don't believe the Ferentz garbage, but I do expect Pioli (not Clark) will hire one of his cronies to HC this team next season. They are going to hunker down another season.

If they like Koetter, it's going to get done right away. If not, I expect them to wait for Josh McD and he'll be the HC.

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

They'll likely keep Gary Gibbs at DC running the 34, let him pick and choose his staff and figure in the new OC & staff on that side of the ball. I am hopeful the ST coach was RC's guy, because he was no good for this ST unit.

That's about it. As for whether I'd be turning my back on the Chiefs if I find out Clark is lying -- omitting the truth during an explanation is lying in my book -- Clark's sidestepping comment with regard to Pioli was a ****ing lie -- as of this point, Clark is fine with Pioli continuing to run football operations for the team.

Unless I see evidence Clark was not lying, I'll go with Clark is a big ass liar -- just another dishonest "businessman" and we all know the new rule$ on greed post '80's. He ain't the first liar we've been around and really, it's sports -- not like it effects me much. I stopped giving the Chiefs my financial support a year ago. Hell, what Goodell and all the owners have done to this game bothers me more.

But hey, if you're gonna lie, try and be clever about it. I do get annoyed at stupid lies.

Josh McDaniel has already notified the league that he will not interview for jobs.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

nobody in the NFL gives a single shit about SOC, if they even know what it is

Hunt wants his fan base to buy tickets, that's it


SOC?!?!

****ing please ...

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

nobody in the NFL gives a single shit about SOC, if they even know what it is

Hunt wants his fan base to buy tickets, that's it


SOC?!?!

****ing please ...

While I agree that no one ultimately gives a shit, only a fool would think they don't know what SOC is, and haven't heard about the things that have been done.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

While I agree that no one ultimately gives a shit, only a fool would think they don't know what SOC is, and haven't heard about the things that have been done.

Espn wouldn't cover KC if they didn't basically have to

Half the NFL wouldn't give a shit if Espn didn't cover KC

and people think NFL personnel are 'scared' one iota about group of fans flying banners in KC?



I'm sorry, i'm glad that getting together and mobilizing made you guys feel better.

dam ... the NFL gives more of a shit about that douchebag fireman ed than anything the fans do in KC.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Espn wouldn't cover KC if they didn't basically have to

Half the NFL wouldn't give a shit if Espn didn't cover KC

and people think NFL personnel are 'scared' one iota about group of fans flying banners in KC?



I'm sorry, i'm glad that getting together and mobilizing made you guys feel better.

dam ... the NFL gives more of a shit about that douchebag fireman ed than anything the fans do in KC.

The issue was never about the NFL. It was about getting the fan base pissed off enough to get Clark's attention. Maybe we were the reason, part of the reason, or not the reason at all that Clark woke the hell up. I don't really give a **** which one it is as long as the steps are taken.

Could have just been attendance or SOC could have had an impact. I think they did, it certainly isn't crazy to think it was part of it.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Espn wouldn't cover KC if they didn't basically have to

Half the NFL wouldn't give a shit if Espn didn't cover KC

and people think NFL personnel are 'scared' one iota about group of fans flying banners in KC?



I'm sorry, i'm glad that getting together and mobilizing made you guys feel better.

dam ... the NFL gives more of a shit about that douchebag fireman ed than anything the fans do in KC.

Reading comprehension is your friend, Laz. I said they knew who SOC was. That's it. The rest of it is just you jacking off all over yourself in public. Again.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

nobody in the NFL gives a single shit about SOC, if they even know what it is

Hunt wants his fan base to buy tickets, that's it


SOC?!?!

****ing please ...

I've got to remember to choose my words carefully here -- almost everybody in the NFL would be under the scrutiny of Chiefs fans -- including but not limited to SOC.

The Owners don't fear fans, neither does Goodell because the networks are their god. That leaves just about every other NFL FO guy, coach & player -- of which there are thousands.

KC has had a difficult time signing players during this 7 year shitfest -- see Manning, for one & Jared for two, Tony for three. The list continues.

It has effected coaching decisions as well -- the pool of potential staff is reduced greatly when you are so void of talent, have an idiot puppetmaster in the GM spot who is actually enjoyed by the trust fund baby that owns this perpetual train wreck and then are faced with rabid drunken fans yelling obscenities at you and your family.

Or, you can keep believing that stench wafting out of arrowhead decade after decade is pleasantly musk and that someday the world will agree.

[Molitoth]

If they like Koetter, it's going to get done right away. If not, I expect them to wait for Josh McD and he'll be the HC.

Josh mcd has already said that he is staying in NE and he's not accepting interviews.

[WildTurkey]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

I think very similarly. Clark's deadlocked on getting Cowher right now.

Yep. Cowher seems to be exactly who he was talking about in his interviews yesterday

[aturnis]

I don't see Cowher as a solution...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I don't see Cowher as a solution...

If the problem is "selling tickets", Cowher is the PERFECT solution.

[Hammock Parties]

The fact we have heard literally 0 reports from the media on Gruden or Cowher is interesting.

Carl was also in KC on Monday, according to a fan post on AP.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

The fact we have heard literally 0 reports from the media on Gruden or Cowher is interesting.

Carl was also in KC on Monday, according to a fan post on AP.

Smoke...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=94

Let's double flashback to Pioli's interview tour. It was done without Clark's blessing. It was done to make Scott seem to be personable, dedicated and focused. All traits that a new employer wants to see during the time of "crisis". Face it, this season has been a massive crisis. Scott wants to demonstrate he can handle himself. So he did what he thought was a good thing.

Clark was pissed. He was in Chicago having a conversation with a well-to-do ex Chiefs coach who has enjoyed a storied head coaching career in a town that rhymes with Hittsburg and is now on TV.