Chiefs Let's talk about the Rams. - Page 10

Direckshun · 10-19-2014, 11:04 PM

I'm just a casual fan; I'm sure a big-timer like Rams Fan will get in here and correct me where ever he thinks I'm wrong.

The Rams, like seemingly everybody else, are battered by injuries, but they've actually recovered from them fairly well. They just got off winning a dreamer against the Seahawks, thanks in part to a couple ridiculous plays they won't be able to replicate (that crazy punt return, the 4th down fake punt).

They're not a team to scoff at, however.

Austin Davis is a sneaky good QB out of Southern Miss. He's been putting up really good numbers, completing 66% of his passes and has only put up one INT the last two weeks against the Seahawks and the 49ers. That's saying something.

Of course, he benefits from what is now a pretty damn good run game. They are stacked at RB. I've been high on Tre Mason ever since I saw him last year at Auburn, and he looks like a very tough runner who can hit a hole hard. They also have Benny Cunningham who looks even better, and of course Zac Stacy. Wow -- there's not a lot of teams that I think can run better than the Chiefs, but this team is just as good.

Thanks in part to the power of the OL. Roger Saffold sucked at tackle, but he's done very well at guard. Jake Long is also a #1 overall LT, and Joe Barksdale is a favorite of mine from LSU at RT. Davin Joseph I believe was a hell of a guard at Tampa, right? He's RG.

The Rams' offensive weapons is a veritable Who's Who of guys that aren't particularly dominant, but are all capable of a really good game and the occasional brilliant play: Austin Davis, Kenny Britt, Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Brian Quick, Austin Pettis, Stedman Bailey... There is not a weak talent in the bunch there, and it's a deep squad that will challenge your NCB and dime backs. Not a great matchup considering how thin we're getting in the secondary...

Of course, the strength of their team is DL. Chris Long is out, but they have one of the best passrushers in the league in Robert Quinn. Aaron Donald will absolutely embarrass whatever guard he's up against, and Michael Brockers and Eugene Sims are very capable too. The Rams have not been getting to the QB this season, but do not take that to mean that they can't -- they got like 3 or 4 sacks today against Russell ****ing Wilson.

They have some brilliant talent at LB -- Alec Ogletree and James Laurinitis are not surprise talents to anybody. I don't know who mans that other OLB spot, I think it's some guy named Dunbar, but yeah. Laurinitis is one of those "always around the ball" types and Ogletree is a crazy athlete.

Corner is the potential weak spot on their defense -- if, of course, we had any WR talent to exploit it. But they're starting rookie EJ Gaines on one side, many of the Missouri folks here are familiar with him, and Janoris Jenkins looks like he's a goner this week, and maybe for the season. I have no idea who they'll start there, but I'm underwhelmed by their options.

I like how this McLeod kid is playing at safety, but I don't like any of their other talents. I'm not too familiar, however, and I'll let someone like Rams Fan set us straight.

They have Legatron kicking kicks, so as long as they can get to midfield, they can nickel and dime FGs all day on us.

I had this game marked down as a sure win at the start of the year. But now it's clear that this is going to be a surprisingly tough game.

ThaVirus · 10-25-2014, 11:50 AM

I know the NFL is about matchups and "any given Sunday" but I think the 49ers were allowing something like 80 rushing YPG before we played them and if Reid didn't go full reerun we possibly could have crossed 200 against them.

The Broncos also have, as of now, the best run defense in the league only allowing 72 YPG and Knile had over 100 himself.

Rams Fan · 10-25-2014, 11:51 AM

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The Rams allow 145 rushing YPG for 4.8 a pop.

Ogletree is athletic but he's a converted safety and a bit of a pussy in run support. I don't even know who their SLB is so **** him, he's going to get railed. Safeties aren't all that good..

We should absolutely fist these guys on the ground. Anything less than 200 on the ground alone would be considered a failure for me.

Dunbar's the SLB. He gets subbed out on nickel passages with Laurinaitis and Ogletree being the 2 LBs. Dunbar's a liability in pass coverage, but a good run stuffer.

Rams Fan · 10-25-2014, 11:52 AM

Now please tell me how the Chiefs upfront will stop Mason/Stacy/Cunningham.

Direckshun · 10-25-2014, 11:53 AM

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If I am correct, and I may not be, there's only been 2 players who have ran for 100+ yards vs the Rams(Murray and Wilson). The interior of the DL, specifically Brockers and Donald, have been fine for the most part. And it was Ogletree who lost contain on Wilson.

Smith is no Wilson. He can move out of the pocket when need be, sure, but he won't gash the Rams like Wilson did.

Passing wise, as I said before, the Rams have been fine for the most part. I'd be concerned if Roberson starts over Jenkins due to Jenkins being questionable with an illness, but no one on the outside for the Chiefs seems like they'll be able to burn the Rams DBs.

We don't burn DBs, really. We run quick, short routes with lots of TE work thrown in.

Is Jenkins playing? How're you feeling about that?

ThaVirus · 10-25-2014, 11:55 AM

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Now please tell me how the Chiefs upfront will stop Mason/Stacy/Cunningham.

We won't.

Mason will have his first 100 yard game of his career.

Direckshun · 10-25-2014, 11:55 AM

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Now please tell me how the Chiefs upfront will stop Mason/Stacy/Cunningham.

I don't think the Chiefs do. I don't think we give two shits about Stacy, but Mason will be trouble. Cunningham looks pretty strong, too.

Mason and Cook/Kendricks are really the only players worth worrying about if my amateur opinion meant anything. The Rams offense isn't terribly different from ours.

ThaVirus · 10-25-2014, 11:55 AM

Saffold is hurting, though, is he not? That could be big.

Direckshun · 10-25-2014, 11:55 AM

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We won't.

Mason will have his first 100 yard game of his career.

Mason should have run for 100 on the Seahawks.

Guy is a smart, tough runner.

Rams Fan · 10-25-2014, 11:56 AM

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We don't burn DBs, really. We run quick, short routes with lots of TE work thrown in.

Is Jenkins playing? How're you feeling about that?

I think it's 50-50 he plays. Supposedly, he contracted some illness this week. We'll see.

Rams Fan · 10-25-2014, 11:56 AM

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Saffold is hurting, though, is he not? That could be big.

Saffold's good to go. Both he and Fisher said he could have gone back in last week if they needed him.

Direckshun · 10-25-2014, 11:57 AM

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I know the NFL is about matchups and "any given Sunday" but I think the 49ers were allowing something like 80 rushing YPG before we played them and if Reid didn't go full reerun we possibly could have crossed 200 against them.

The Broncos also have, as of now, the best run defense in the league only allowing 72 YPG and Knile had over 100 himself.

Yeah.

I just really don't see how we don't run on the Rams.

Nothing against the Rams, but we run on everybody.

Direckshun · 10-25-2014, 11:57 AM

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I think it's 50-50 he plays. Supposedly, he contracted some illness this week. We'll see.

So it WOULD be Gaines and Roberson, then, should he not play.

Who's your NCB?

Edit: Didn't he suffer some nasty knee injury against the Seahawks? I seem to remember him being hauled off and crying.

ThaVirus · 10-25-2014, 11:59 AM

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Saffold's good to go. Both he and Fisher said he could have gone back in last week if they needed him.

Oh.

Sucks you guys decided to roll with Robinson. You guys look much better on the ground with him on the line.

Rams Fan · 10-25-2014, 12:00 PM

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So it WOULD be Gaines and Roberson, then, should he not play.

Who's your NCB?

Edit: Didn't he suffer some nasty knee injury against the Seahawks? I seem to remember him being hauled off and crying.

Correct.

NCB is Joyner.

Yeah, Jenkins missed a few plays last week on that. But he came back in. If he doesn't play, it's unrelated to that injury.

Direckshun · 10-25-2014, 12:02 PM

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Correct.

NCB is Joyner.

Yeah, Jenkins missed a few plays last week on that. But he came back in. If he doesn't play, it's unrelated to that injury.

Joyner. I remember being impressed with him at Florida State.

How's he fitting on the field? He's a 2nd year player, correct?

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Let's talk about the Rams. I'm just a casual fan; I'm sure a big-timer like Rams Fan will get in here and correct me where ever he thinks I'm wrong. The Rams, like seemingly everybody else, are battered by injuries, but they've actually recovered from them fairly well. They just got off winning a dreamer against the Seahawks, thanks in part to a couple ridiculous plays they won't be able to replicate (that crazy punt return, the 4th down fake punt). They're not a team to scoff at, however. Austin Davis is a sneaky good QB out of Southern Miss. He's been putting up really good numbers, completing 66% of his passes and has only put up one INT the last two weeks against the Seahawks and the 49ers. That's saying something. Of course, he benefits from what is now a pretty damn good run game. They are stacked at RB. I've been high on Tre Mason ever since I saw him last year at Auburn, and he looks like a very tough runner who can hit a hole hard. They also have Benny Cunningham who looks even better, and of course Zac Stacy. Wow -- there's not a lot of teams that I think can run better than the Chiefs, but this team is just as good. Thanks in part to the power of the OL. Roger Saffold sucked at tackle, but he's done very well at guard. Jake Long is also a #1 overall LT, and Joe Barksdale is a favorite of mine from LSU at RT. Davin Joseph I believe was a hell of a guard at Tampa, right? He's RG. The Rams' offensive weapons is a veritable Who's Who of guys that aren't particularly dominant, but are all capable of a really good game and the occasional brilliant play: Austin Davis, Kenny Britt, Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Brian Quick, Austin Pettis, Stedman Bailey... There is not a weak talent in the bunch there, and it's a deep squad that will challenge your NCB and dime backs. Not a great matchup considering how thin we're getting in the secondary... Of course, the strength of their team is DL. Chris Long is out, but they have one of the best passrushers in the league in Robert Quinn. Aaron Donald will absolutely embarrass whatever guard he's up against, and Michael Brockers and Eugene Sims are very capable too. The Rams have not been getting to the QB this season, but do not take that to mean that they can't -- they got like 3 or 4 sacks today against Russell ****ing Wilson. They have some brilliant talent at LB -- Alec Ogletree and James Laurinitis are not surprise talents to anybody. I don't know who mans that other OLB spot, I think it's some guy named Dunbar, but yeah. Laurinitis is one of those "always around the ball" types and Ogletree is a crazy athlete. Corner is the potential weak spot on their defense -- if, of course, we had any WR talent to exploit it. But they're starting rookie EJ Gaines on one side, many of the Missouri folks here are familiar with him, and Janoris Jenkins looks like he's a goner this week, and maybe for the season. I have no idea who they'll start there, but I'm underwhelmed by their options. I like how this McLeod kid is playing at safety, but I don't like any of their other talents. I'm not too familiar, however, and I'll let someone like Rams Fan set us straight. They have Legatron kicking kicks, so as long as they can get to midfield, they can nickel and dime FGs all day on us. I had this game marked down as a sure win at the start of the year. But now it's clear that this is going to be a surprisingly tough game.
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