Chiefs Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell - Page 10

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

WOW

RINGLEADER · 09-14-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

DAT has more value in the NFL this season than Russell.

IMO, DAT has more value as an inactive player on the Chiefs roster than if they were to cut him loose, as he might very well end up on a rival's 53.

Dorsey's playing chess while other guys are playing checkers.

I think he'd instantly be a Raider or Charger.

Would love to see KC trade for a stud pass rusher but not sure why a team would part with anyone worthwhile at this point in the season.

And Dane is correct that when you have built a pretty solid team you're going to have a hard time keeping picks -- it isn't necessarily a sign of a bad pick. I also liked DJ White's play and enthusiasm more than Russell's so not like we lost anything. DJ's tackle on Sunday was a big one and he'll have many more to come.

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Dorsey was a bigger pimp, he'd dress like Huggy Bear on the sidelines.

Personally, I find this to be fantastic news. Dorsey isn't going to wait on players that show nothing and are clearly beaten out by 6th round players at the same position. Russell in no way, shape or form showed that he belonged on an NFL roster this year or on the field, although it won't be surprising if he's signed to the Practice Squad if he goes unclaimed.

And seriously, why would any team claim him at this point and put him on their 53?

He's been with us for only 4 months. How terrible did Dee Ford look in his first year? He ran away from a RB bc he was so confused.

Add in the fact that there was a spot open but we traded for Acker.

It's not like Dorsey to give up on a high pick so early. There has to be something else going on.

staylor26 · 09-14-2016, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not because I called this weeks ago but I do believe that Dorsey has proven since 2013 that he deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to personnel decisions, especially those in the secondary.

This is my thinking. I was shocked and definitely wouldn't say I was happy about this, but I give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt at this point. I don't see why everybody else wouldn't do the same.

Mother****erJones · 09-14-2016, 09:57 AM

This is more of an indictment on Russell than Dorsey. There's a big problem if you're drafted in the top 100 (74?) and get little playing time in ****ing preseason and then cut after week 1.

Mother****erJones · 09-14-2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I think he'd instantly be a Raider or Charger.

Would love to see KC trade for a stud pass rusher but not sure why a team would part with anyone worthwhile at this point in the season.

And Dane is correct that when you have built a pretty solid team you're going to have a hard time keeping picks -- it isn't necessarily a sign of a bad pick. I also liked DJ White's play and enthusiasm more than Russell's so not like we lost anything. DJ's tackle on Sunday was a big one and he'll have many more to come.

Raiders were scouting our Rams preseason game for returners.

BlackOp · 09-14-2016, 09:58 AM

I was surprised KC took so many DBs this year. I think it was a preventative move in case Nelson/Gaines had issues coupled with letting Smith walk.

This has a lot to do with having a deep roster...good problem to have. If it were 2013, he would still be here.

staylor26 · 09-14-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I was surprised KC took so may DBs this year. I think it was a preventative move in case Nelson/Gaines had issues coupled with letting Smith walk.

This has a lot to do with having a deep roster...good problem to have.

This is a good point. Dorsey hedged his bets at the corner position, and one guy had to go in the end.

**DaFace** · 09-14-2016, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

This is more of an indictment on Russell than Dorsey. There's a big problem if you're drafted in the top 100 (74?) and get little playing time in ****ing preseason and then cut after week 1.

It's not like this was a big reach, either. Most scouting reports had him projected as going in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I was surprised KC took so may DBs this year. I think it was a preventative move in case Nelson/Gaines had issues coupled with letting Smith walk.

This has a lot to do with having a deep roster...good problem to have. If it were 2013, he would still be here.

And I was solemnly against paying a 29 year old CB, whose wheels could fall off at any time, $40 million over 4 years.

Guess what happens in the very first game? Smith gives up a 98 yard TD and was benched. Smith even admitted "I was getting killed".

Dorsey, once again, proving he's a pimp.

MIAdragon · 09-14-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Only on CP...

Player X: "He needs 3-4 years to realize his potential. GIVE HIM TIME!!!"

Russell: "He's garbage 1 week into his career, cutting him was the right move."

Qft

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-14-2016, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not because I called this weeks ago but I do believe that Dorsey has proven since 2013 that he deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to personnel decisions, especially those in the secondary.

I can't argue with that at all. He has proven he knows what he's doing there.

BlackOp · 09-14-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I was solemnly against paying a 29 year old CB, whose wheels could fall off at any time, $40 million over 4 years.

Guess what happens in the very first game? Smith gives up a 98 yard TD and was benched. Smith even admitted "I was getting killed".

Dorsey, once again, proving he's a pimp.

Smith never got smoked like that in Sutton's scheme. I think it was an issue of putting a square peg in a round hole. That was on the coaches.

staylor26 · 09-14-2016, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Smith never got smoked like that in Sutton's scheme. I think it was an issue of putting a square peg in a round hole. That was on the coaches.

That's what happens when you have money to blow on high priced FA's.

L.A. Chieffan · 09-14-2016, 10:12 AM

I don't get it. Even if he really is terrible you don't just go and cut your own third round pick that YOU made. I bet he goes somewhere and plays well.

raybec 4 · 09-14-2016, 10:17 AM

Was he suspended for cheating at Notre Dame?

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