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Unlike most of us, Martin can't just pickup and change jobs. He can't say, I'm over Miami, I want to go play with KC.
If he didn't like what was happening and it became clear that if he did report the abuse, he would have been made even more of a pariah, then his actions are completely justified. People want to say, "Oh, he's being a bitch," which I can't exactly argue, but nobody is offering up what he should have done instead. |
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Riley Cooper had one drunken incident outside of football that he stood up in front of his teammates and apologized for. Incognito, according to this report, had several incidents that were directed at a teammate that he has refused to even recognize as improper. Not quite the same thing.
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Interestingly, Incognito is taking all of the heat. I think it is because he is white.
The other 2 parties found to be guilty of the same things in the report, not white but you're not hearing much about them. |
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Skimming the text messages doesn't give the full story. The full report is very well written and was the product of very thorough work (over 100 interviews of every single Dolphin there was, from owner to assistant trainer). They also bullied others in addition to Martin.
Let me just excerpt a few highlights. NSFW! When we interviewed him, Martin said he was most offended by persistent vulgar references to members of his family, with whom he is close. According to Martin, these were not harmless one-off “yo mama” jokes, but cutting comments delivered with the intention to demean. The evidence supports a finding that Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey repeatedly and persistently made graphic, sexually explicit comments about Martin’s sister, a medical student whom they had never met. Four fairly typical examples of the types of insults made orally, according to Martin, are: We are going to run train on your sister. She loves me. I’m going to **** her without a condom and cum in her ****. Hey, Jmart’s sister is in town. Get the plastic sheets ready, she’s a squirter. I’m going to bang the shit out of her and spit on her and treat her like shit. Hear your sister has a wolf-puss. A fat, hairy pussy In the 2013 season, Incognito began openly, at various times, to refer to Martin in the locker room and on the practice field as “my bitch” or the “O-line’s bitch.” Martin was insulted to be called another player’s bitch, and he believed that Incognito was invoking terminology commonly used in prisons to refer to an inmate who is under the control and protection of a dominant inmate. In one instance, Martin claimed Incognito came to his defense in a fight with a defensive lineman in a scrimmage, but then immediately following the altercation began to say to Martin in a demeaning tone, both on the field and in the locker room, in the presence of other teammates, “you’re my bitch.” The “you’re my bitch” comments added to name-calling that had begun in 2012, Martin’s rookie season, when Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey began regularly calling Martin a “****,” a “bitch,” a “pussy” and a “pillowbitergot.” Martin was not surprised to hear these words used by football players, but believed they were frequently hurled at him with demeaning intent. The evidence shows that these words—at least at times—were spoken to Martin in a cutting tone or with the intent to humiliate him. According to Martin, these types of taunts were a routine part of his life with the Dolphins. For the most part, Incognito does not dispute saying or writing any of the statements that Martin claimed offended him. Further, Incognito admitted that at times the very purpose of the verbal taunts was to “get under the skin” of another person. From Incognito’s perspective, however, the statements in question were an accepted part of the everyday camaraderie of the Dolphins tight-knit offensive line. Incognito told us that Martin (and other offensive linemen) all recognized, accepted and, indeed, actively participated in “go-for-the-jugular” teasing, and that vulgarity and graphic sexual comments were not only a staple of their locker-room culture but also helped them bond. In contrast, Jerry downplayed his role in making vulgar comments about Martin’s family, and Pouncey denied making or hearing any such remarks. We do not find Jerry and Pouncey credible on these points, largely because both Martin and Incognito, plus other witnesses, agree that these words were in fact said to Martin. Martin was not the only one subjected to hurtful treatment. Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey routinely mocked and demeaned other Dolphins players and personnel. Player A Player A was a Dolphins offensive lineman. Like Martin, he is quiet and unassuming. During his time with the team, Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey frequently taunted Player A with homophobic insults. He often was called a “pillowbiter” or a “pillowbitergot” in a demeaning tone. Incognito reportedly accused him of “sucking dick” and “pissing while sitting down” and asked him “where’s your boyfriend?” Incognito acknowledged that Player A, although not actually believed to be gay, was spoken to in this manner repeatedly and persistently—he got it “every day from everybody, high frequency.” We found that the Assistant Trainer, who was born in Japan, was the target of frequent and persistent harassment, including insults relating to his race and national origin. Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey admitted that they directed racially derogatory words toward him, including “Jap” and “Chinaman.” At times, according to Martin, they referred to the Assistant Trainer as a “dirty communist” or a “North Korean,” made demands such as “give me some water you ****ing chink,” spoke to him in a phony, mocking Asian accent, including asking for “rubby rubby sucky sucky,” and called his mother a “rub and tug masseuse.” Martin and others informed us that Incognito and Jerry taunted the Assistant Trainer with jokes about having sex with his girlfriend. Incognito admitted that these types of comments were made to the Assistant Trainer. On December 7, 2012, the anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey donned traditional Japanese headbands that featured a rising sun emblem (which the Assistant Trainer had given them) and jokingly threatened to harm the Assistant Trainer physically in retaliation for the Pearl Harbor attack. According to Martin, the Assistant Trainer confided in him that he was upset about the Pearl Harbor comments, finding them derogatory toward his heritage.
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Did Martin ever tell Incognito that what he was doing was demeaning and hoped it would stop?
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I've noticed Hardwick using it on @midnight. 'This is crazy, because internet!!' 'Awww so sad, because emotion.' Do you remember where you came across it first?
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I was taken by the last sentence of what Amno posted above: According to Martin, the Assistant Trainer confided in him that he was upset about the Pearl Harbor comments, finding them derogatory toward his heritage.
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See above.
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but ...... Incognito needs to shut the **** up. Teams might avoid him because he seems like such a complete idiot.
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Exactly, its not like he's gonna do prison time... and yes, he definitely needs to shut his yap, cant believe his agent and lawyer didn't keep him from the latest twitter outburst.
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