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Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration.
Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration
Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479 Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars." Share Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick. More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour. CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY. Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them. Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'. "I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal. "I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down." James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle. http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html Last edited by HemiEd; 11-04-2009 at 12:48 PM.. |
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It would be interesting to see what percentage of vehicles that Toyota has manufactured that this recall entails. I guess I am a lucky person because no Toyota vehicle I have ever owned has had mechanical problems to the extent of the story shown.
I like the fact that Toyota has recalled and given rebates on the Trucks that rusted the frame....I like that when a recall is made there is only 1/10 th the hassle I have had when I had a recall on my Chrysler and Ford products. mmaddog ******* |
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I will say, as an aside, I am very impressed with the direction that Ford has taken. They are slowly but surely climbing back to profitability, the Management seems to have a business plan that makes sense, and they are getting good marks overall on quality of product.
I would love to see an American-based auto maker survive and thrive. Competition is always good for the consumer. mmaddog ******* |
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Some of these cars have 24V V6 engines that are pushing 250hp, you really think if you're already going 60 mph and the vehicle starts going WOT you're going to overpower it with your brakes and get it stopped before they overheat? It's not going to happen. |
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Will it warp the rotors, yes, but it will stop the vehicle.
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These stories seem to telling the opposite. And I don't see how you can say that for sure anyway, have you ever tried stopping a car going 60+ mph at WOT with your brakes? All I'm saying is if the brake fluid overheats, you're done, and it doesn't take as long as you may think.
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That being said, if your wife drives one of the cars in question, I would go over what to do if if should happen to her. Neutral is your friend.....
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And if you have stopped a car solely with your brakes in that situation, I have to say I'm surprised, but you have to admit brake overheating is completely plausible. It's also possible that instead of just mashing on the brakes and trying to stop the car as quickly as possible, some of these people are only using the brakes to slow the car in order to keep it under control, which would most certainly lead to brake failure. |
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I did it in a more controlled environment. I had an Impala SS, super charged (Another company car years ago ) that the rotors were warped on. I had to replace them anyway, so I tired it out. I held my foot to the floor doing about 70 down the highway. I then used the brakes to stop. You bet your sweet a** they got hot, but it did stop the car. Replaced the rotors and pads the next day.
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Or at least on any car I had paid for. |
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That my friend, is the key point.
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As I mentioned earlier, it's entirely possible they were trying to use the brakes to slow the car instead of trying to completely stop it, which would be a huge mistake. It's hard to say how someone would react in a panic situation like that.
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