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**Bwana** · 10:08 AM

So how many of you are into fishing? What do you fish for and how often do you go? Any tips for how to get the monster of your choice, lures, bait, flies? Feel free to throw in a fishing story or two as well.

What was your best or worst experience while out fishing?

MOhillbilly · 04-15-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by richardschiefsfan

It's time for me to go....I fish a huge pond/small lake...whatever you want to call it. I use minnows and catch the heck out of bass, crappie, and very nice 4 and 5 lb cats...going tomorrow!!!!!!!

yeah man i got the itch aswell. I got some honeyholes im gonna test when i get the chance(maybe next weekend) to see how theyre hittin and whats workin but more than anything to just get out.(kinda ironic since i live in the country,but i really wanna get out in them boonies)

redbrian · 04-15-2005, 11:42 AM

How would you like to hook into this bad boy.

Posted on Fri, Apr. 15, 2005

13 pounds but still too small

By BRENT FRAZEE The Kansas City Star

T.J. Watreas can imagine the fame that catching a state-record Missouri bass might bring.

He came close in mid-March when he landed a giant largemouth at a strip pit and became an immediate celebrity.

“I couldn't believe it,” said Watreas, 39, of Blue Springs. “By the time I went to have that bass weighed on certified scales at a grocery store in Lamar (Mo.), the word was out.

“There was a crowd waiting to see that fish. Kids on bikes were even coming up with cameras, wanting to get a picture.”

The excitement that largemouth bass created was understandable. The giant weighed 13 pounds, 3 ounces, one of the largest bass ever caught in the state.

It was the latest threat to the oldest pole-and-line fishing record on the Missouri books: the 13-pound, 14-ounce bass caught by Marvin Bushong in April 1961 at Bull Shoals Lake

For Missouri fishermen, that standard has become the holy grail. Not only is Bushong's record the oldest on the state books, it is one of the longest-standing bass records in the nation. Only Georgia (1932), Michigan (1934), South Carolina (1949) and Tennessee (1954) have older marks.

And it's not because that Missouri bass is one of the biggest in the country. Seventeen states have larger state records.

But in Missouri, Bushong's record continues to be the one that stays just out of casting range.

“In Missouri, a bass over 8 pounds is rare,” said Kevin Richards, a fisheries supervisor for the Missouri Department of Conservation. “But that doesn't mean there isn't a record fish out there.

“It would have to be a freak: a fish that was very old and survived by finding good resting cover where it wouldn't be bothered by fishermen and boats. And it would have to live where it would find plenty to eat.

“I truly believe bass like that exist. But whether anyone will ever catch that fish, that's another question.”

***

Watreas almost provided the answer to that question on March 19, when he went fishing on a strip pit at Angler's Paradise, a commercial operation near Liberal, Mo., south of Nevada.

Watreas, a guide at the camp, had no illusions of greatness when he set out. He planned a short trip to see whether the bass were hitting.

But the outing quickly turned into much more.

“As I was going down the bank, I saw two big bass suspended near a brush pile,” Watreas said. “I threw a suspending stickbait out in front of them and when I twitched it, one of the fish just moseyed out to take a look.

“Every time I would move it, she would follow. But she acted like she wasn't really interested.

“It wasn't until I gave it a couple quick jerks that she went after it.”

The bass became aggressive once it was hooked, jumping twice and digging hard to get back to the brush pile. But Watreas finally landed it and was able to exhale.

His first impression? Well, slight disappointment.

“To be honest, when this bass came out, I said to myself, ‘Dang, the smaller one is going for it,' ” Watreas said. “The other one actually looked a little bigger.”

But Watreas' disappointment melted when he placed his bass on the scales.

“I usually release the big ones that I catch,” he said. “But this one was hooked through the gills and died.

“So I'll have it mounted.”

And he'll continue to cast for that other big bass that he spotted.

“I caught a bass that weighed 10 pounds, 15 ounces at Angler's Paradise two years ago,” Watreas said. “And there have been other 9- and 10-pound bass caught there.

“It's just a great place for big bass. We manage it for trophy fish — harvesting the small ones and putting a lot of habitat in the water.

“Still, you never expect to catch a fish like this.”

***

Watreas isn't the first fisherman to provide hope that Missouri's elusive record will one day be reeled in.

Take a look:

• In 1985, tournament fisherman Jay Koren of Rockdale, Ill., was whiling away his time at Truman Lake in what had been an unproductive competition for him when he felt something jolt his white spinnerbait. Moments later, he was shocked to bring in a 13-pound, 9-ounce largemouth.

• In 1998, David Bosley and Gary Sexton found a bass floating near-dead on a farm pond in northern Missouri. The fish weighed 13 pounds, 15 ounces — one ounce bigger than the state record. Because they didn't catch the fish on sporting tackle, it wasn't eligible for the record books.

• In 2002, Skip Surbaugh, a guide at Lake of the Ozarks, landed a huge bass and measured it before letting it go. Later, fisheries biologists told him that a fish that long (roughly 27 inches) could have weighed more than 13 pounds. But he'll never know.

So, Bushong's fish still reigns.

“I don't think any of us figured the record would last this long,” Marvin's son, Mike, told The Star in 2002. “At the time, there were a lot of big bass in Bull Shoals. The day after Dad caught this fish, a friend went back to the same spot and caught a 10-pounder.

“But no one could beat Dad's record then — and no one's been able to do it since. There have been bass that have come close over the years and we'd think, ‘Well, it's only a matter of time now.'

“But Dad's record just holds on.”

***

So what would a Missouri state-record bass mean? Fame and fortune?

Well, maybe fame. But don't count on the fortune.

“These state-record fish are never worth as much to the fishermen who catch them as their buddies in the bar tell them they are,” said Larry Whiteley, manager of public relations for Bass Pro Shops, the sporting-goods giant based in Springfield. “Everyone thinks they will get rich if they catch a state record.

“But it doesn't happen. At the most, it might bring some free products and a replica mount.”

Bass Pro Shops does accept donations of state-record fish for display in its aquarium, Whiteley said. But he added, “It's not like we write a check for thousands of dollars for fish like that.”

Why? Bass Pro Shops wants to discourage fishermen from chasing trophy fish for financial gain.

“We do often provide a replica mount,” Whiteley said. “And the companies of the tackle that was used to catch the fish often provide free product. But that's about it.

“The biggest thing the fisherman would get would be his or her moment of fame. But it would be fleeting fame.

“That fisherman would be big news for the moment. But I'm afraid it wouldn't last long.”

**Bwana** · 04-15-2005, 06:05 PM

Wow, that was sweet the Rainbows were going nuts. I thought I was going to wear out my arms hauling in those hawgs! Great day on the river!

**Bwana** · 04-16-2005, 08:55 PM

Another good day on the river. Blue wing olive were knocking them dead.

**Skip Towne** · 04-16-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Wow, that was sweet the Rainbows were going nuts. I thought I was going to wear out my arms hauling in those hawgs! Great day on the river!

And the sky was black with birds.............!!!

Abba-Dabba · 04-16-2005, 09:20 PM

I fish for panfish with ultralight tackle. It is great fun and takes alot of skill and hard work to pull in a 2lb. crappie or bluegill on regular monofilament 4lb test. Ultralight fishing is a great way to learn how to bring in a fish. I like to use small 1/8 oz. Rebel crawdads, always my first choice. Use alot of small crankbaits. jigs, small white tailed mepps, small spoons, small spinnerbaits. Never use live bait. I like to keep moving and find the fish, whether it be on the shore or fishing the edges from a boat.

Never been one to get excited to fish for cats. I just don't have the patience to sit there and wait for a bite. I like to go find the fish rather than wait for them to pass by my bait. Sitting on my ass just seems no fun to me.

NewChief · 04-17-2005, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Another good day on the river. Blue wing olive were knocking them dead.

You're killing me. I got out today for just a couple of hours to do some scouting for new smallmouth waters. The white bass run is still on, but the crowds are just too much. I caught nothing, but did find some promising new water. Hopefully I'll get out today for some white bass.

NewChief · 04-25-2005, 12:17 PM

I think I'm going to be sick. These guys were fishing in the exact spot I always stand when I go for whities. Too bad I got talked out of going fishing this weekend.

**Bwana** · 04-25-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

I think I'm going to be sick. These guys were fishing in the exact spot I always stand when I go for whities. Too bad I got talked out of going fishing this weekend.

I went again Saturday and did well on the Blue wing green olive in the morning and killed them in the afternoon during a hatch on the March Brown. The bows were going crazy and there were a few bowns mixed in there.

**Bwana** · 05-17-2005, 08:27 AM

So....Any luck? All the streams and rivers around here are un-fishable thanks to a butt load of rain and melting snow. I hope some of you others have some monster fish tales.

NewChief · 05-17-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

So....Any luck? All the streams and rivers around here are un-fishable thanks to a butt load of rain and melting snow. I hope some of you others have some monster fish tales.

I got nothing. Been busy with my 3 month old. My wife started back to work (from home) on Monday, so I'm even busier now. Just haven't been able to find much time to get out. Summer vacation starts for me come May 31st, though, so me and my boy should be getting out a little more then, though I'm unsure how successful I'll be trying to fish with a 3 month old on my back.

I did get out one afternoon last week for about an hour onto a local urban stream that's 5 minutes from my house. Caught about 10 little pumpkinseeds on my 4 wt. using a soft hackle.

**Bwana** · 05-17-2005, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

I got nothing. Been busy with my 3 month old. My wife started back to work (from home) on Monday, so I'm even busier now. Just haven't been able to find much time to get out. Summer vacation starts for me come May 31st, though, so me and my boy should be getting out a little more then, though I'm unsure how successful I'll be trying to fish with a 3 month old on my back.

I did get out one afternoon last week for about an hour onto a local urban stream that's 5 minutes from my house. Caught about 10 little pumpkinseeds on my 4 wt. using a soft hackle.

Hey, at least you were able to make it out bud. I would kill for one hour of fishable stream waters about now. This is the first year since 1998 this area is above average precip, which is great for the farmers, but is also raising water levels. Combine that with melting snow in the high country and it's not looking good for the foreseeable future in the fishing department. I may have to hit a lake just to try to get something done.

**Iowanian** · 05-17-2005, 09:30 AM

I've only been to the water once so far(which is rediculous). I'll be able to wet a line this weekend, and will probably try to hit "the secret pond"...which has big bass, but too many hippys found out, and its not really a secret anymore.

I was able to find my elusive lure online...I catch alot of big bass and really like my bill dance, real bass popper.........but my alltime favorite, which I'd been unable to find...the Salted, Electric Blue/opal white tail 8" Gene Larew plastic worm. I've got a couple of 100 count bags on the way.

I also orded some "Hoo Daddy's". Anyone use them before?

Chiefnj · 05-17-2005, 09:34 AM

Took my first NJ walleye this past weekend. 22" 3 1/2 lbs, released to get bigger.

**Dartgod** · 05-17-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

...will probably try to hit "the secret pond"...which has big bass, but too many hippys found out, and its not really a secret anymore.

Since when do "hippies" fish?

03-25-2005, 09:24 AM
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2136013647	The Fishing Thread So how many of you are into fishing? What do you fish for and how often do you go? Any tips for how to get the monster of your choice, lures, bait, flies? Feel free to throw in a fishing story or two as well. What was your best or worst experience while out fishing? Last edited by Bwana; 03-25-2005 at 10:08 AM..
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04-15-2005, 11:42 AM	#152
redbrian Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City MO Casino cash: $10004900	How would you like to hook into this bad boy. Posted on Fri, Apr. 15, 2005 13 pounds but still too small By BRENT FRAZEE The Kansas City Star T.J. Watreas can imagine the fame that catching a state-record Missouri bass might bring. He came close in mid-March when he landed a giant largemouth at a strip pit and became an immediate celebrity. “I couldn't believe it,” said Watreas, 39, of Blue Springs. “By the time I went to have that bass weighed on certified scales at a grocery store in Lamar (Mo.), the word was out. “There was a crowd waiting to see that fish. Kids on bikes were even coming up with cameras, wanting to get a picture.” The excitement that largemouth bass created was understandable. The giant weighed 13 pounds, 3 ounces, one of the largest bass ever caught in the state. It was the latest threat to the oldest pole-and-line fishing record on the Missouri books: the 13-pound, 14-ounce bass caught by Marvin Bushong in April 1961 at Bull Shoals Lake For Missouri fishermen, that standard has become the holy grail. Not only is Bushong's record the oldest on the state books, it is one of the longest-standing bass records in the nation. Only Georgia (1932), Michigan (1934), South Carolina (1949) and Tennessee (1954) have older marks. And it's not because that Missouri bass is one of the biggest in the country. Seventeen states have larger state records. But in Missouri, Bushong's record continues to be the one that stays just out of casting range. “In Missouri, a bass over 8 pounds is rare,” said Kevin Richards, a fisheries supervisor for the Missouri Department of Conservation. “But that doesn't mean there isn't a record fish out there. “It would have to be a freak: a fish that was very old and survived by finding good resting cover where it wouldn't be bothered by fishermen and boats. And it would have to live where it would find plenty to eat. “I truly believe bass like that exist. But whether anyone will ever catch that fish, that's another question.” * Watreas almost provided the answer to that question on March 19, when he went fishing on a strip pit at Angler's Paradise, a commercial operation near Liberal, Mo., south of Nevada. Watreas, a guide at the camp, had no illusions of greatness when he set out. He planned a short trip to see whether the bass were hitting. But the outing quickly turned into much more. “As I was going down the bank, I saw two big bass suspended near a brush pile,” Watreas said. “I threw a suspending stickbait out in front of them and when I twitched it, one of the fish just moseyed out to take a look. “Every time I would move it, she would follow. But she acted like she wasn't really interested. “It wasn't until I gave it a couple quick jerks that she went after it.” The bass became aggressive once it was hooked, jumping twice and digging hard to get back to the brush pile. But Watreas finally landed it and was able to exhale. His first impression? Well, slight disappointment. “To be honest, when this bass came out, I said to myself, ‘Dang, the smaller one is going for it,' ” Watreas said. “The other one actually looked a little bigger.” But Watreas' disappointment melted when he placed his bass on the scales. “I usually release the big ones that I catch,” he said. “But this one was hooked through the gills and died. “So I'll have it mounted.” And he'll continue to cast for that other big bass that he spotted. “I caught a bass that weighed 10 pounds, 15 ounces at Angler's Paradise two years ago,” Watreas said. “And there have been other 9- and 10-pound bass caught there. “It's just a great place for big bass. We manage it for trophy fish — harvesting the small ones and putting a lot of habitat in the water. “Still, you never expect to catch a fish like this.” * Watreas isn't the first fisherman to provide hope that Missouri's elusive record will one day be reeled in. Take a look: • In 1985, tournament fisherman Jay Koren of Rockdale, Ill., was whiling away his time at Truman Lake in what had been an unproductive competition for him when he felt something jolt his white spinnerbait. Moments later, he was shocked to bring in a 13-pound, 9-ounce largemouth. • In 1998, David Bosley and Gary Sexton found a bass floating near-dead on a farm pond in northern Missouri. The fish weighed 13 pounds, 15 ounces — one ounce bigger than the state record. Because they didn't catch the fish on sporting tackle, it wasn't eligible for the record books. • In 2002, Skip Surbaugh, a guide at Lake of the Ozarks, landed a huge bass and measured it before letting it go. Later, fisheries biologists told him that a fish that long (roughly 27 inches) could have weighed more than 13 pounds. But he'll never know. So, Bushong's fish still reigns. “I don't think any of us figured the record would last this long,” Marvin's son, Mike, told The Star in 2002. “At the time, there were a lot of big bass in Bull Shoals. The day after Dad caught this fish, a friend went back to the same spot and caught a 10-pounder. “But no one could beat Dad's record then — and no one's been able to do it since. There have been bass that have come close over the years and we'd think, ‘Well, it's only a matter of time now.' “But Dad's record just holds on.” *** So what would a Missouri state-record bass mean? Fame and fortune? Well, maybe fame. But don't count on the fortune. “These state-record fish are never worth as much to the fishermen who catch them as their buddies in the bar tell them they are,” said Larry Whiteley, manager of public relations for Bass Pro Shops, the sporting-goods giant based in Springfield. “Everyone thinks they will get rich if they catch a state record. “But it doesn't happen. At the most, it might bring some free products and a replica mount.” Bass Pro Shops does accept donations of state-record fish for display in its aquarium, Whiteley said. But he added, “It's not like we write a check for thousands of dollars for fish like that.” Why? Bass Pro Shops wants to discourage fishermen from chasing trophy fish for financial gain. “We do often provide a replica mount,” Whiteley said. “And the companies of the tackle that was used to catch the fish often provide free product. But that's about it. “The biggest thing the fisherman would get would be his or her moment of fame. But it would be fleeting fame. “That fisherman would be big news for the moment. But I'm afraid it wouldn't last long.”
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04-15-2005, 06:05 PM	#153
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2136013647	Wow, that was sweet the Rainbows were going nuts. I thought I was going to wear out my arms hauling in those hawgs! Great day on the river!
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04-16-2005, 08:55 PM	#154
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2136013647	Another good day on the river. Blue wing olive were knocking them dead.
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04-16-2005, 09:20 PM	#156
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $3582970	I fish for panfish with ultralight tackle. It is great fun and takes alot of skill and hard work to pull in a 2lb. crappie or bluegill on regular monofilament 4lb test. Ultralight fishing is a great way to learn how to bring in a fish. I like to use small 1/8 oz. Rebel crawdads, always my first choice. Use alot of small crankbaits. jigs, small white tailed mepps, small spoons, small spinnerbaits. Never use live bait. I like to keep moving and find the fish, whether it be on the shore or fishing the edges from a boat. Never been one to get excited to fish for cats. I just don't have the patience to sit there and wait for a bite. I like to go find the fish rather than wait for them to pass by my bait. Sitting on my ass just seems no fun to me.
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04-25-2005, 12:17 PM	#158
NewChief In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Fayetteville, AR Casino cash: $7260204	I think I'm going to be sick. These guys were fishing in the exact spot I always stand when I go for whities. Too bad I got talked out of going fishing this weekend. __________________ In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. - H. L. Mencken
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05-17-2005, 08:27 AM	#160
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2136013647	So....Any luck? All the streams and rivers around here are un-fishable thanks to a butt load of rain and melting snow. I hope some of you others have some monster fish tales.
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05-17-2005, 09:30 AM	#163
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1778454	I've only been to the water once so far(which is rediculous). I'll be able to wet a line this weekend, and will probably try to hit "the secret pond"...which has big bass, but too many hippys found out, and its not really a secret anymore. I was able to find my elusive lure online...I catch alot of big bass and really like my bill dance, real bass popper.........but my alltime favorite, which I'd been unable to find...the Salted, Electric Blue/opal white tail 8" Gene Larew plastic worm. I've got a couple of 100 count bags on the way. I also orded some "Hoo Daddy's". Anyone use them before?
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05-17-2005, 09:34 AM	#164
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Took my first NJ walleye this past weekend. 22" 3 1/2 lbs, released to get bigger. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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