do we still want Green over Huard? - Page 11

Hootie · 11-05-2006, 03:17 PM

I mean...this Huard guy is playing sensational football.

Great win today boys!

Mecca · 11-05-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

exactly. No-win situation...which is why Huard should be kept in...Green isn't going to do any better than Huard, he's only going to do worse...so why even risk it?

I think the coaching staff would trust Green to throw the ball more than 24 times when they run 79 offensive plays instead of giving the RB 39 carries....

Basileus777 · 11-05-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Green should play when he comes back........LJ's ridiculous amount of touches is partially because Huard is playing and they don't trust him to pass as much.

Exactly. We need to be able to win a game without LJ carrying us. There are going to be games when LJ is shutdown, Huard cannot make make teams pay the way Green can.

tk13 · 11-05-2006, 05:34 PM

Huard is doing a great job and making things hard, he deserves all the credit in the world. I still think Trent is the better QB, but right now what he's doing is working.

I wouldn't want to be Herm right now. I think Green is the guy, but there are two sides to the argument. I think the best argument for Huard is that he's simply in a good rhythm doing what he's supposed to do. Maybe Trent will be rusty. At the same time, we don't how Huard will respond late in the season during a big game/against a great D... or with Trent looking over his shoulder, knowing one bad game could put him back on the bench. It's a brutal decision. We're playing well, but we still can't afford to screw up, too many good teams in the AFC. Both options could blow up in your face... we could get down to the Jacksonville game and Huard lays an egg, or Trent comes back rusty and we drop one next week. Trent is viewed by the leader of the team, is loved by the coaching staff, and has a great track record of success, that's the biggest difference between this and all the Gannon/Brady type comparisons.

Hootie · 11-05-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Exactly. We need to be able to win a game without LJ carrying us. There are going to be games when LJ is shutdown, Huard cannot make make teams pay the way Green can.

where do you get this crap?

Name one game where Trent Green made teams pay when his running back was shut down.

Actually, name one game Trent Green has played a Chief where his running back didn't amass at least 100 total yards.

Exactly.

You guys really need to calm down with this whole "Trent Green is the best QB ever" shit. Green is good, very very good, pro bowl quality...but he has always had the system, the backs, and most importantly, the offensive line.

Huard doesn't have that last part, now does he?

Mecca · 11-05-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

where do you get this crap?

Name one game where Trent Green made teams pay when his running back was shut down.

Actually, name one game Trent Green has played a Chief where his running back didn't amass at least 100 total yards.

Exactly.

You guys really need to calm down with this whole "Trent Green is the best QB ever" shit. Green is good, very very good, pro bowl quality...but he has always had the system, the backs, and most importantly, the offensive line.

Huard doesn't have that last part, now does he?

13-3 season.......at Green Bay.......Trent Green won that game. Or Miami here in 2002, they confused on Holmes and stopped him but Green put up 350 in the win. It's happened a few times, I don't think Huard could do that. And Huard playing is taking a toll on LJ he's touching the ball far to many times because they don't trust Huard.

Sure-Oz · 11-05-2006, 05:37 PM

Trent obviously is a system QB, and Huard is def. more talented, give me a damn break, what a joke

**the Talking Can** · 11-05-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

13-3 season.......at Green Bay.......Trent Green won that game. Or Miami here in 2002, they confused on Holmes and stopped him but Green put up 350 in the win. It's happened a few times, I don't think Huard could do that. And Huard playing is taking a toll on LJ he's touching the ball far to many times because they don't trust Huard.

you're wasting your time with facts....Hootie has never actually watched Trent play....

Hootie · 11-05-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

13-3 season.......at Green Bay.......Trent Green won that game. Or Miami here in 2002, they confused on Holmes and stopped him but Green put up 350 in the win. It's happened a few times, I don't think Huard could do that. And Huard playing is taking a toll on LJ he's touching the ball far to many times because they don't trust Huard.

yeah...at Green Bay...the game where Priest rushed for a ton of yards including a stretch in overtime where he ran the ball 8 straight times...that didn't set up that Kennison touchdown or anything...not to mention the only reason we came back was because Woods returned a Favre throw for 6...

and Miami?!?!

. LJ went for 90+, Priest went for 80+, and Priest also caught a 60 something yard TD pass...

Great examples, mecca!

Hootie · 11-05-2006, 05:41 PM

yeah, you're right...I've never watched Trent play...

Huard has the better arm and takes less sacks. Green is a tad more accurate and has more experience.

Both have their weaknesses, and both have their strengths. They are very similar and benching one for the other who is coming off a serious 10 week injury is just dumb.

Dumb.

**Rausch** · 11-05-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Actually, name one game Trent Green has played a Chief where his running back didn't amass at least 100 total yards.

Exactly.

I'm not going to take the time to prove how stupid this is, I'll just highlight it for all to see...

Mecca · 11-05-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

yeah...at Green Bay...the game where Priest rushed for a ton of yards including a stretch in overtime where he ran the ball 8 straight times...that didn't set up that Kennison touchdown or anything...not to mention the only reason we came back was because Woods returned a Favre throw for 6...

and Miami?!?!

. LJ went for 90+, Priest went for 80+, and Priest also caught a 60 something yard TD pass...

Great examples, mecca!

Does that not say 2002? LJ was in college in 2002 you have the game wrong.........

By the way Holmes wasn't great in that Packers game....yes they ran it so many straight times in overtime but his final line was like 22-76.

**luv** · 11-05-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

you're wasting your time with facts....Hootie has never actually watched Trent play....

I think that Mecca is talking about touches, while Hootie is talking about yards. I don't think they're on the same argument.

Don't worry, Hootie. I'm running along....

**the Talking Can** · 11-05-2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Trent obviously is a system QB, and Huard is def. more talented, give me a damn break, what a joke

so, Trent running the Coryell offense as well as it has ever been run is a bad thing? he's "just" a system QB? the most complex passing system there is, and that's a knock against him?

if this Bizarro Chiefs planet?

Trent couldn't complete 10 passes for less than 200 yards and hand the ball to LJ because he's just a "system" QB?

what in the hell is going on? did everyone leave their brains at the screening of Borat?

**luv** · 11-05-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so, Trent running the Coryell offense as well as it has ever been run is a bad thing? he's "just" a system QB? the most complex passing system there is, and that's a knock against him?

if this Bizarro Chiefs planet?

Trent couldn't complete 10 passes for less than 200 yards and hand the ball to LJ because he's just a "system" QB?

what in the hell is going on? did everyone leave their brains at the screening of Borat?

I thought he was being sarcastic.

Sure-Oz · 11-05-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

so, Trent running the Coryell offense as well as it has ever been run is a bad thing? he's "just" a system QB? the most complex passing system there is, and that's a knock against him?

if this Bizarro Chiefs planet?

Trent couldn't complete 10 passes for less than 200 yards and hand the ball to LJ because he's just a "system" QB?

what in the hell is going on? did everyone leave their brains at the screening of Borat?

I was being sarcastic dude! read closer i was responding to hootie on basically what he thinks! Should've quoted him, it wouldve made it clearer.

11-05-2006, 03:17 PM
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	do we still want Green over Huard? I mean...this Huard guy is playing sensational football. Great win today boys!
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11-05-2006, 05:34 PM	#153
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1707500	Huard is doing a great job and making things hard, he deserves all the credit in the world. I still think Trent is the better QB, but right now what he's doing is working. I wouldn't want to be Herm right now. I think Green is the guy, but there are two sides to the argument. I think the best argument for Huard is that he's simply in a good rhythm doing what he's supposed to do. Maybe Trent will be rusty. At the same time, we don't how Huard will respond late in the season during a big game/against a great D... or with Trent looking over his shoulder, knowing one bad game could put him back on the bench. It's a brutal decision. We're playing well, but we still can't afford to screw up, too many good teams in the AFC. Both options could blow up in your face... we could get down to the Jacksonville game and Huard lays an egg, or Trent comes back rusty and we drop one next week. Trent is viewed by the leader of the team, is loved by the coaching staff, and has a great track record of success, that's the biggest difference between this and all the Gannon/Brady type comparisons.
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11-05-2006, 05:41 PM	#159
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	yeah, you're right...I've never watched Trent play... Huard has the better arm and takes less sacks. Green is a tad more accurate and has more experience. Both have their weaknesses, and both have their strengths. They are very similar and benching one for the other who is coming off a serious 10 week injury is just dumb. Dumb.
Posts: 56,356