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Old 02-27-2009, 01:24 PM  
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:55 PM   #151
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:55 PM   #152
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Patriot Fans are probably much more smarter then the majority of Chiefsplanet fans. So this is a good trade.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:55 PM   #153
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:56 PM   #154
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No doubt.

We traded for an on-field coach, for leadership, for someone to set the example. Lord knows our D needs it.

We need the same on O.
Yep with the stipulation that we didn't give up very much to get him.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:57 PM   #155
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We will see what we traded, but I like it right now. He is an instant upgrade and is a gives us great leadership going forward. Hamas just want to say broke dick 4 times in one thread.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:57 PM   #156
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You don't trade draft picks for a 34 year old, when you had one on the roster with comparable skills and let him walk.
Yeah, instead you draft Kevin Robinson and Mike Merritt...and every once in a while trip into a Brandon Carr.

I assume we gave up nothing more than a 5th round pick.

I'll take the leadership and two years of service for a young team with promise rather than another Kevin Robinson.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:57 PM   #157
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Depends on what we traded.
Like OTW said - anything we traded to get a 34 year old declining vet is too much. Maybe Vrabel's play this year will make Pioli look like an actual genious (cps).
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:57 PM   #158
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We also get that goalline TE to replace what we lost with Jared Allen!!!

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Old 02-27-2009, 01:57 PM   #159
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:57 PM   #160
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The hate for Carl is going to be NOTHING compared to Pioli if we don't win 15 games a year and a Super Bowl REALLY soon.
You are so dumb still.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #161
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Somewhere Mike Vrabel is kicking the everlasting crap out of his dog right now while yelling at his agent: "I got one more year left in this body and they are sending me to the g-damn Chiefs???"
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #162
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If its a 7th rounder does anyone really care?
Of course.

Where else will we get a QB?
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #163
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #164
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If you believe in the system, then when do you make the change?
There is never a time going from one system to the other, that your roster isn't full of players that fit into the old system. But if you believe in the newer one (changing from a 4-man to a 3-man front) then you make the change. When is the most natural point of departure? I'd say when a new complete ovverhaul is tking place.
Believing in the system is exactly the problem.

Systems don't win games. Players do.

If I go to a team with man cover corners, 260 lb. rush backers, 290 lb. ends, and a 330 lb. DT, sure as shit is brown, I'm not going to switch to a cover 2.

Mike Tomlin is a Cover 2 guy, do you see him switching? Hell no. He took the talent he had in place and won with it.

Herm is a Cover 2 guy, and what did he do? He gutted a really good 3-4 to install his system, and the defense got worse because of it. Then he gutted an average attacking 4-3, and the defense is now the worst in the league.

People who are hopelessly dependent upon systems aren't visionaries at all. They're tools.

I'm not putting Joe Montana in the 1970's Raiders offense, and I'm not having Randy Moss run 8 yard digs from the slot.

****...just...****.
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Old 02-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #165
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This move is great for one thing alone:

Leadership.

Some of you want to field a team with 25 year olds everywhere who never won shit.

Vrabel is going to be a good mentor to this defense to teach them how to WIN.
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