Chiefs Matt Cassel on 810 WHB tomorrow - Page 11

Farzin · 02:51 PM

Matt Cassel will be on BTL tomorrow on 810 WHB around 3:30. According to KK, he will open up the phone lines and Cassel will answer questions from some of the listners. Sounds cool, can't wait!

EDIT: KK said at the beginning of the show that he may not be on! He's obviously not on so I guess they were not able to get him.

Just Passin' By · 06-03-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

How many INTs did Gannon throw that day?

The Buccaneers knew the calls. If the opposition knows where you're going to throw the ball, they can get there to intercept it. Besides, that's irrelevant. The guy was an MVP and got his team to the Super Bowl.

Micjones · 06-03-2009, 05:34 PM

This is an oversimplified conversation if I've ever seen one.

rad · 06-03-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sad, ain't it?

This was the one place of the 3 you could get some real talk without the whole "rainbows, unicorns and ice cream" vibe.

Not anymore, apparently.

I don't think it's quite that bad.......yet.

It's these young kids nowadays, all chipper and full 'o piss n vinegar.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-03-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

I don't think it's quite that bad.......yet.

You're right, it's not that bad yet, but it is definitely trending in that direction.

**The Franchise** · 06-03-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Buccaneers knew the calls. If the opposition knows where you're going to throw the ball, they can get there to intercept it. Besides, that's irrelevant. The guy was an MVP and got his team to the Super Bowl.

You're ****ing kidding me....right? Now it's that the other team knew where he was going to throw it to. It's not Gannon's fault that he threw a shit tone of INTs that day. It's the coaches. FFS people.

**The Franchise** · 06-03-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're right, it's not that bad yet, but it is definitely trending in that direction.

It's definitely getting there. I remember when I left WPI because of the bullshit they called discussions over there.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 06-03-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

You're ****ing kidding me....right? Now it's that the other team knew where he was going to throw it to. It's not Gannon's fault that he threw a shit tone of INTs that day. It's the coaches. FFS people.

Even fans of the other team are getting into the act.

Excuses, excuses.

Just Passin' By · 06-03-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

You're ****ing kidding me....right? Now it's that the other team knew where he was going to throw it to. It's not Gannon's fault that he threw a shit tone of INTs that day. It's the coaches. FFS people.

Why do you keep bringing up something irrelevant and acting as if it matters? He threw a lot of picks in the Super Bowl, and part of the problem was that the opposing team knew exactly what plays were being run.

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"Every play they've run, we've run in practice," Tampa Bay strong safety John Lynch, who was miked for TV, said on the sideline before halftime.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ucky_sider_ap/

I thought this was common knowledge.

It doesn't matter anyway, as far as the point I was trying to make. He was still a league MVP and took his team to the Super Bowl.

**the Talking Can** · 06-03-2009, 05:53 PM

sorry, people who think this place has changed are self absorbed assholes...plain and simple

people have been crying about this place changing since the first day it opened....total laugh out loud nonsense....

people change...people think they're too good for this place, so they act like jesus for awhile then cry and pout and then leave...

people change...they get older and miss "their friends" and so they complain that "the planet has changed" because they don't recognize anyone any more...

it is all navel gazing, me-monkey horse crap....

this place is as interesting and busy as ever....hundreds of people have left and this place chugs right along with different people, that's life folks...things change...deal with it

phobia, htismage, russ, hell go back a lot farther....each time a favorite poster left some weepy self-centered poster claimed "it was all over!"..."it will never be the same!"..."it was better back then!!".....horseshit, lying horseshit

get over yourselves, you aren't that important....we'll be just fine when warjesusonthecross decides that the Planet isn't good enough for him anymore....did the sun come up when mecca left to comb his golden locks?

yes, of course it did....

one lesson: if you've ever said or thought, "this place is going to hell," please, do me a favor and take a vacation....walk Christ's footsteps on the beach and realize the simple truth:

You aren't that important.

**The Franchise** · 06-03-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Why do you keep bringing up something irrelevant and acting as if it matters? He threw a lot of picks in the Super Bowl, and part of the problem was that the opposing team knew exactly what plays were being run.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ucky_sider_ap/

I thought this was common knowledge.

It doesn't matter anyway, as far as the point I was trying to make. He was still a league MVP and took his team to the Super Bowl.

Something irrelevant? THE MOTHER****ER THREW INTS!! How is that irrelevent to the topic at hand?

chiefzilla1501 · 06-03-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Hold on.

People are so quick to look at the END of a game for answers, but ignore the beginning.

I was asked what more Cassel could have done to win that game, and I pointed out SEVERAL things, namely, not go 10-20 and stall twice inside the 30 and once inside the 15.

That's fact. Sorry you don't like it. Better 1st half play wouldn't necessitate a miracle effort in the 2nd just to get to OT.

And regarding the double standard, I didn't say that, Doomy brought that scenario to the conversation, which was ridiculous - comparing a 2-time SB Champion to a guy that has 11 career starts is comedy gold.

Again, others have made this about Cassel. I'm only saying that this fanbase has a habit of making excuses for average QB's when they fail. Seeing as how Cassel has yet to take a snap in a Chiefs uniform, I don't see where he fits in this equation. I simply made a comment about a picture that epitomizes the thinking of this fanbase - that the QB never seems to be held accountable, and that there's always an excuse that absolves him from blame.

I can see your point on that, but the problem is that you're acting as if a QB is like a CEO of a company that needs to be held accountable for the entire company. He's not. The distinction is that Cassel cannot do anything for the defense, except maybe extend drives. Look at any company. If sales go up 75% but your operations department is so inefficient that costs go up 100%, your bottom line goes down and your business "loses." You can say that sales messed up because they didn't increase by 100%. But isn't it more logical to blame your operations department?

It's not like basketball where Lebron James is responsible for playing both good offense and defense. And so, the only way you can judge players is based on whether they played well within realistic expectations. If your realistic expectation is that your QB needs to score 30+ points to win games, then your QB has to be damn near perfect to win football games.

But QBs shouldn't be expected to be perfect to win football games. Of course, there are places where Cassel could have done better in that game, but improving from great to perfect is a hell of a lot harder than improving the defense that game from horrendous to average. When a baseball team loses, I blame the guy who went 0-4, not the guy who went 3-4 but missed out on one hit. He exceeded REALISTIC expectations. Accountability is not about blaming everyone when you lose. Accountability is about recognizing successes and improving the areas where you failed.

BarrySPAMAID · 06-03-2009, 06:03 PM

This just in,..

Matt Cassel had ham on Rye today for lunch.

Thanks!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-03-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BarrysKOOLAID

This just in,..

Matt Cassel had ham on Rye today for lunch.

Thanks!

Hammock Parties · 06-03-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BarrysKOOLAID

This just in,..

Matt Cassel had ham on Rye today for lunch.

Thanks!

I bet it was Jewish Rye.

BADUM CHING!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-03-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

sorry, people who think this place has changed are self absorbed assholes...plain and simple

people have been crying about this place changing since the first day it opened....total laugh out loud nonsense....

people change...people think they're too good for this place, so they act like jesus for awhile then cry and pout and then leave...

people change...they get older and miss "their friends" and so they complain that "the planet has changed" because they don't recognize anyone any more...

it is all navel gazing, me-monkey horse crap....

this place is as interesting and busy as ever....hundreds of people have left and this place chugs right along with different people, that's life folks...things change...deal with it

phobia, htismage, russ, hell go back a lot farther....each time a favorite poster left some weepy self-centered poster claimed "it was all over!"..."it will never be the same!"..."it was better back then!!".....horseshit, lying horseshit

get over yourselves, you aren't that important....we'll be just fine when warjesusonthecross decides that the Planet isn't good enough for him anymore....did the sun come up when mecca left to comb his golden locks?

yes, of course it did....

one lesson: if you've ever said or thought, "this place is going to hell," please, do me a favor and take a vacation....walk Christ's footsteps on the beach and realize the simple truth:

You aren't that important.*

*(said the pot to the kettle)

Yeah, yeah; "I suck, die in a fire, I'm a douche; blah-blah-blah"

-The Talking Clap.

06-02-2009, 11:29 PM
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9372208	sorry, people who think this place has changed are self absorbed assholes...plain and simple people have been crying about this place changing since the first day it opened....total laugh out loud nonsense.... people change...people think they're too good for this place, so they act like jesus for awhile then cry and pout and then leave... people change...they get older and miss "their friends" and so they complain that "the planet has changed" because they don't recognize anyone any more... it is all navel gazing, me-monkey horse crap.... this place is as interesting and busy as ever....hundreds of people have left and this place chugs right along with different people, that's life folks...things change...deal with it phobia, htismage, russ, hell go back a lot farther....each time a favorite poster left some weepy self-centered poster claimed "it was all over!"..."it will never be the same!"..."it was better back then!!".....horseshit, lying horseshit get over yourselves, you aren't that important....we'll be just fine when warjesusonthecross decides that the Planet isn't good enough for him anymore....did the sun come up when mecca left to comb his golden locks? yes, of course it did.... one lesson: if you've ever said or thought, "this place is going to hell," please, do me a favor and take a vacation....walk Christ's footsteps on the beach and realize the simple truth: You aren't that important. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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