Chiefs Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs - Page 11

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html

Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.

Mr. Laz · 01-14-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

That's the thing. We never got over the hump with Marty but no other team won more regular season games than we did during the 90's. Then Dick comes in and again, we can't get over the hump. This franchise is DUE for some success, and all of us should be questioning everything until it does. We have earned that right for supporting them all this time.

we get kicked in the nuts every season and you want to start anticipating nut trauma for shits and grins. gotcha.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 11:04 AM

Wake me when Whitlock stops writing articles that don't dovetail with his Pioli-loathing.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-14-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

we get kicked in the nuts every season and you want to start anticipating nut trauma for shits and grins. gotcha.

No Laz, but I definitely want to know when I should wear a cup.

Disclaimer: I'm not wearing a cup in 2010.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dtebbe

Personally I think they hired the two best available candidates for the jobs.

I've asked everyone who has been critical of the hires to name better candidates. I'm still waiting on that response...

Forget that they coached in New England.
Are there better candidates available? If not, please shut up.

NOTHING is guaranteed in the NFL, but to criticize Pioli for making two significant hires to improve this coaching staff is dumb.

wild1 · 01-14-2010, 11:06 AM

It's predictable, and it's naysaying. That's his schtick. Whomever is in power over at Arrowhead he aligns himself against, and he just runs down whatever they do.

They could have hired Crennel or any other person walking the earth, and Whitlock's take would be "I'm not sold/color me skeptical/they're riding someone else's coattails/Egoli/arrogance/I'm not sold/color me skeptical".

When the news slows down, he'll be more antagonistic to them. They don't fight with the media like Carl Peterson did, so he will simply paint caricatures of them to throw tomatoes at.

Alton deFlat · 01-14-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wild1

Wow. Who knew Whitlock would be negative about what the Chiefs did. I'm so shocked. I can't believe this has happened. Really. I'm shocked. Just floored. You could knock me over with a feather.

Whitlock is as predictable as a Jimmy Raye offense.

Mr. Laz · 01-14-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

No Laz, but I definitely want to know when I should wear a cup.

Disclaimer: I'm not wearing a cup in 2010.

dude ... there are tons of things that shoot up red flags with this organization without "looking" for them.

you want to scream when the chiefs hire goonther again ... cool. But Weiz and Crennel are viable coaches. Why look for reasons to bitch when we have so many smacking us in the face everyday?

will this group of Chiefs coaches succeed? If the Chiefs curse continues, probably not. But Chiefs fans are the last ones that need to be reminded of how much shit can go wrong. We've have a yearly bad luck enema for how long now?

quit kicking us while we are down ... there is nothing wrong with a little hope.

That's what whitlock is doing ... every times he sees chiefs fans with even the slightest glimmer of hope he does his best to slam the car door on our collective dicks.

**** him

wild1 · 01-14-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

dude ... there are tons of things that shoot up red flags with this organization without "looking" for them.

you want to scream when the chiefs hire goonther again ... cool. But Weiz and Crennel are viable coaches. Why look for reasons to bitch when we have so many smacking us in the fact everyday?

will this group of Chiefs coaches succeed? If the Chiefs curse continues, probably not. But Chiefs fans are the last ones that need to be reminded of how much shit can go wrong. We've have a yearly bad luck enema for how long now?

quit kicking us while we are down ... there is nothing wrong with a little hope.

That's what whitlock is doing ... every times he sees chiefs fans with even the slightest glimmer of hope he does his best to slam the car door on our collective dicks.

**** him

Amen!

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-14-2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

dude ... there are tons of things that shoot up red flags with this organization without "looking" for them.

you want to scream when the chiefs hire goonther again ... cool. But Weiz and Crennel are viable coaches. Why look for reasons to bitch when we have so many smacking us in the fact everyday?

will this group of Chiefs coaches succeed? If the Chiefs curse continues, probably not. But Chiefs fans are the last ones that need to be reminded of how much shit can go wrong. We've have a yearly bad luck enema for how long now?

quit kicking us while we are down ... there is nothing wrong with a little hope.

That's what whitlock is doing ... every times he sees chiefs fans with even the slightest glimmer of hope he does his best to slam the car door on our collective dicks.

**** him

I don't blame anyone who's fed up with jwhit. At all. I've come down on most of his articles for the exact reasons all of you are now. I just thought he did a better job with this one.

And for the record, even though I don't agree with a lot of the decisions that have been made since Pioli was hired, I am excited about being a Chiefs fan again. He's Scott Pioli, and I'm Mr. Flopnuts. Whatever he does that I don't agree with doesn't matter, because he's proven he knows a lot more than I do. (Understatement of the year)

For what he's trying to do with this team, he's surrounded himself with the very best braintrust that he could. And they have a history of success. Let's do it again!

BigChiefFan · 01-14-2010, 11:17 AM

Wake me up, when Whitlock says something worth a damn.

Saccopoo · 01-14-2010, 11:18 AM

Oh noes!!!! We hired well respected coordinators who would have been welcome with open arms on every other team in the league, but they worked under Parcells or Belichik so the Whitlock Nation of Naysayers and Negativitists are up in arms about cronyism and nepotism.

I guess we could have hired a guy like Shanahan and then got an up and coming offensive coordinator, such as his kid. That would have been so much better than Weis and Crennel...Idiots.

Oh, I absolutely agree and concur about one thing in Whitlock's article - everyone is tired of reading about it. Get a new schtick you hack because this horse is laying on the infield, dead, gangrenous and rotting and you're still attempting to whip it to the finish line.

Extra Point · 01-14-2010, 11:25 AM

Off-season camera installation, cheap!

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Oh noes!!!! We hired well respected coordinators who would have been welcome with open arms on every other team in the league, but they worked under Parcells or Belichik so the Whitlock Nation of Naysayers and Negativitists are up in arms about cronyism and nepotism.

I guess we could have hired a guy like Shanahan and then got an up and coming offensive coordinator, such as his kid. That would have been so much better than Weis and Crennel...Idiots.

Oh, I absolutely agree and concur about one thing in Whitlock's article - everyone is tired of reading about it. Get a new schtick you hack because this horse is laying on the infield, dead, gangrenous and rotting and you're still attempting to whip it to the finish line.

For the record... Kyle Shanahan would've been a good hire. But Shanahan's kid was NEVER available to us.

There are other candidates who could've adequately done the job. I'm not sure than any of them are better candidates though.

BigChiefFan · 01-14-2010, 11:32 AM

The Kinks disagree. Paranoia, big destroyer.

Great coaches are paranoid? This article is rubbish.

philfree · 01-14-2010, 11:33 AM

Some of this is contrary to what Gretz wrote in his article.

FORMER PATRIOTS CB TY LAW ON CRENNEL: “In the meetings, Romeo calls the defenses and runs the entire defense. Bill Belichick puts in the flavor and makes suggestions, but the defense is Romeo’s.”

FORMER GIANTS LB CARL BANKS ON CRENNEL: “A lot of what Bill Belichick is now is as a result o f having very smart coaches and players around him. As far as coaching, Romeo is just as much of a defensive genius as Bill.”

JWhit says Romeo was pretty much just a foot shuffling porter in his article. Gee I wonder who I should believe?

PhilFree

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $980478	Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor. Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan. Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick). Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty. Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup. You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots. Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed. Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses. When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach. It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator. In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game. The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions. I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.) Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator. Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel. Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010. If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL. Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff. Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011. My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense. Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down. Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia. Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.
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