Chiefs Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high - Page 11

**dirk digler** · 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You really want to reach for Clausen?

You really want to reach for (insert name of available, talented QB here)?

Clausen would be worthy of the draft position. You don't like him? Fine.

Last year, Sanchez was worthy of the draft position. Some didn't like him. Fine. (When it looked like it would be Stafford, people hated him, too.)

Year before, Flacco was worthy of the draft position (#15). Some didn't like him. Fine. (When it looked like it would be Ryan, people hated him, too.)

I'm sure somewhere in Indy, many moons ago, some True Fans were asking, "You really want to reach for Manning?"

Every QB. Every ****ing year.

We're going to have to take the risk. And, if we miss...gasp...we're going to having to ****ing take the risk, AGAIN.

We won't win anything meaningful without a franchise QB.

Chiefnj2 · 03-16-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

would you rather reach for a QB?
or reach for a 5tech?

This has nothing to do with Tyson Jackson.

Do you want Clausen or Berry?

**the Talking Can** · 03-16-2010, 12:27 PM

the one position we haven't drafted in the first round in 20 years is QB

it's also the most important position on and off the field to a franchise...nothing else is close

is it really so impossible to figure out why we suck and haven't sniffed a superbowl since like forever?

but hey, let's spend YET ANOTHER FIRST ROUND PICK ON LT....just 2 YEARS removed from the last one...

brilliant

just ****ing brilliant

Dayze · 03-16-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Since I was responding to a post that was two pages prior to the Colts example, which wasn't even posted when I responded to Hamas' post, I hardly see how it would be "changing the subject." You're not very perceptive, are you.

However, if the Colts get beat by the Jets this next year, will I be vindicated?

no; Jets can't beat the Colts in a SB.

BFD if they beat them in regular season. I'm done with 'regular season'.

I'm about The Main Thing

Chiefnj2 · 03-16-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You really want to reach for (insert name of available, talented QB here)?

Clausen would be worthy of the draft position. You don't like him? Fine.

Last year, Sanchez was worthy of the draft position. Some didn't like him. Fine. (When it looked like it would be Stafford, people hated him, too.)

Year before, Flacco was worthy of the draft position (#15). Some didn't like him. Fine. (When it looked like it would be Ryan, people hated him, too.)

I'm sure somewhere in Indy, many moons ago, some True Fans were asking, "You really want to reach for Manning?"

Every QB. Every ****ing year.

We're going to have to take the risk. And, if we miss...gasp...we're going to having to ****ing take the risk, AGAIN.

We won't win anything meaningful without a franchise QB.

Then make a move for the better QB, Bradford.

Dayze · 03-16-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

This has nothing to do with Tyson Jackson.

Do you want Clausen or Berry?

oh, I see. My bad.

personally, I'd take Clausen even if he were a slight reach by a few spots.

Dayze · 03-16-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You really want to reach for (insert name of available, talented QB here)?

Clausen would be worthy of the draft position. You don't like him? Fine.

Last year, Sanchez was worthy of the draft position. Some didn't like him. Fine. (When it looked like it would be Stafford, people hated him, too.)

Year before, Flacco was worthy of the draft position (#15). Some didn't like him. Fine. (When it looked like it would be Ryan, people hated him, too.)

I'm sure somewhere in Indy, many moons ago, some True Fans were asking, "You really want to reach for Manning?"

Every QB. Every ****ing year.

We're going to have to take the risk. And, if we miss...gasp...we're going to having to ****ing take the risk, AGAIN.

We won't win anything meaningful without a franchise QB.

Excellent Post.

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Then make a move for the better QB, Bradford.

Ok, fine, if that's your guy. If you think he's going to be a franchise QB, you absolutely make that move.

Dayze · 03-16-2010, 12:33 PM

I really wish the Chiefs weren't deathly afraid of taking a QB.

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I really wish the Chiefs weren't deathly afraid of taking a QB.

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB, I just think that:

A. He should be a sure thing
B. We should build the line first.

Love,
True Fan

Dayze · 03-16-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB, I just think that:

A. He should be a sure thing
B. We should build the line first.

Love,
True Fan

ahh, yes. the elusive "Sure thing".

don't forget, Tom Brady was a 6th round pick.

Saccopoo · 03-16-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

is it really so impossible to figure out why we suck and haven't sniffed a superbowl since like forever?

Nope. It's pretty easy to figure out.

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but hey, let's spend YET ANOTHER FIRST ROUND PICK ON LT....just 2 YEARS removed from the last one...

I hate to reiterate, but we didn't take a left tackle in the 2008 draft. We took a guard. Albert had never played left tackle in his entire football career. In looking back at the draft, it seems he was the highest drafted guard since 1997.

I'm not saying he's a bad guy or a bad player. I'm saying he was a guard. Had always been a guard. Until Herm thought it would b a good idea to try him out at left tackle. If you are happy supporting Herm's vision, that's your prerogative.

I'd like to see what he could do in terms of playing his natural position of LG - the one he played so effectively that it garnered him a first round selection in the 2008 draft. Although, one has to wonder if this was one of those classic Carl Peterson associative draft picks like Ryan Sims and Junior Siavii. Albert did happen to play next to D'brickashaw Fergusson and Eugene Monroe for his entire college career, much like Sims next to Julius Peppers and Sivaii next to Olshansky. But if you are one of those eternal optimists that think that the third time is a charm, then I think that's great, and I hope Albert does work out for you.

However, based on historical Peterson drafting perspectives, I'm not going to hold my breath.

Saccopoo · 03-16-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB, I just think that:

A. He should be a sure thing
B. We should build the line first.

Love,
True Fan

I'm not opposed to drafting a QB, I just think that:

A. He should have shit tons of potential.
B. Make sure we draft the QB position before giving him a solid line to work behind.

Love,
Drafturbators

(This post was approved of by the David Carr Fan Club)

Fish · 03-16-2010, 12:46 PM

JFC... SaccoOkung thinks he's a guard, so by God, he's a guard. Nevermind the past two seasons in the NFL as a LT.....

Hammock Parties · 03-16-2010, 12:47 PM

It wasn't Herm's vision that Albert was a left tackle. It was the vision of MANY well-informed football people including ANDY REID because the Eagles wanted to draft Albert in the first round.

The guy lost so much weight that he's not gonna be nearly as effective at guard now. And he would have been a LEFT TACKLE in college had he not played with D'Brickashaw Ferguson. And by the way, he played two games in college at left tackle, so you're wrong, again.

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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1030478	It wasn't Herm's vision that Albert was a left tackle. It was the vision of MANY well-informed football people including ANDY REID because the Eagles wanted to draft Albert in the first round. The guy lost so much weight that he's not gonna be nearly as effective at guard now. And he would have been a LEFT TACKLE in college had he not played with D'Brickashaw Ferguson. And by the way, he played two games in college at left tackle, so you're wrong, again. __________________ Chiefs game films
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