Chiefs What if Charles really did get more carries? Wicket stat. - Page 11

Hammock Parties · 12-20-2010, 11:37 AM

He could break off 2K in our system, that's what.

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• Jamaal Charles (notes)

The Kansas City Chiefs running back had 14 touches for 153 total yards and a touchdown, and helped ease the load for the returning Matt Cassel (notes). His 80-yard run late in the fourth quarter – on the Chiefs’ first snap after the Rams pulled within 20-13 – locked the game up. Here’s a wicked stat: Charles has 1,961 rushing yards in his last 17 games. And he did that on only 297 carries. That’s a staggering average of 6.6 yards per carry.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-24-2010, 11:32 AM

I'm with Hootie on this one.

If the defender gets his hands on the ball, or knocks the ball out with his hands, it's a pass defensed.

Had that defender not made contact with the ball, I'd agree it's a drop.

JTagg7754 · 12-24-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Charles has been the best back in the NFL the last 2 years. Glad we showed him the money!

....... you're kidding right?? I mean, MAYBE this season but last season? Nah, you're joking. There is absolutely no way you're serious.

Pablo · 12-24-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

....... you're kidding right?? I mean, MAYBE this season but last season? Nah, you're joking. There is absolutely no way you're serious.

He's been better than McFadden the last two years.

Hammock Parties · 12-24-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

no...

it was a pass defensed

there is a reason you aren't posting the .gif

you know I'm right

The reason is because I don't have that farging play saved.

And you sitting there acting like I should have to post a gif to defend my position when you're just flapping your gums and doing nothing is a load of shit.

Anyway, pointless debate. **** off.

Merry Christmas.

JTagg7754 · 12-24-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo

He's been better than McFadden the last two years.

Was McFadden the best back in the NFL the past two years? If not, I don't see the need to bring him up other than trying to cheap shot. Well I also have one of those, 23-20.

Halfcan · 12-24-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

....... you're kidding right?? I mean, MAYBE this season but last season? Nah, you're joking. There is absolutely no way you're serious.

Yards per carries and most plays of 20 or more yards.

JTagg7754 · 12-24-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Yards per carries and most plays of 20 or more yards.

LOL I have some very interesting people in my fan base. Not the brightest people in the world, but you're making them look like ****ing Albert Einstein w/ this talk.

Just to further prove, take your theory away from this board and go to a neutral site and see how many people agree w/ you. The notion you're bringing up is just THAT stupid. Like REALLY stupid. Sorry man. Try not to be such a homer.

Hootie · 12-24-2010, 01:47 PM

well Charles was every bit as good as Chris Johnson down the stretch last year (as soon as Charles got his shot) and he's been the superior back this year so I'm not quite sure what Halfcan said that was so shocking

Hootie · 12-24-2010, 01:51 PM

Charles last 16 games:

251 for 1664 (6.63 YPC) and 6
43 for 438 and 1

best RB in the NFL

JTagg7754 · 12-24-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

well Charles was every bit as good as Chris Johnson down the stretch last year (as soon as Charles got his shot) and he's been the superior back this year so I'm not quite sure what Halfcan said that was so shocking

Whole season >>>>>>> stretch run. Charles isn't even the best back in the league this year either. You don't split carries and be considered the best back. Not only that, the competition the Chiefs have played this season is next to dogshit so of course his stats will be inflated. The best RB IMO is Foster. I'm not even gonna attempt to debate that here unless someone logical presents good info other than lame insults and his YPC. I'm well aware of all those things.

EDIT: I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy. Great season and he seems to be a good runner but to say he was better than CJ last season is just ****ing dumb. REALLY dumb.

JTagg7754 · 12-24-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Charles last 16 games:

251 for 1664 (6.63 YPC) and 6
43 for 438 and 1

best RB in the NFL

Stats are misleading.

NOT best RB in the NFL. Sorry.

Hootie · 12-24-2010, 02:01 PM

well he is better than CJ this season...

and Foster has been great, no doubt...but is his team winning games?

They went from a pass heavy, elite offense that could score at will to a run first team that struggles to score points.

Hootie · 12-24-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

Stats are misleading.

NOT best RB in the NFL. Sorry.

real concrete stuff you got there

stats can be misleading...

but how can a YPC stat for a RB that has that many carries be misleading?

This isn't a small sample size...

this is 250+ carries

and he averaged 6.63 YPC

time to take your head out of your ass

WebGem · 12-24-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

Stats are misleading.

NOT best RB in the NFL. Sorry.

McFadden is much better, right?

Halfcan · 12-24-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JTagg7754

LOL I have some very interesting people in my fan base. Not the brightest people in the world, but you're making them look like ****ing Albert Einstein w/ this talk.

Just to further prove, take your theory away from this board and go to a neutral site and see how many people agree w/ you. The notion you're bringing up is just THAT stupid. Like REALLY stupid. Sorry man. Try not to be such a homer.

Well if you go by stats-NO JC does not stack up because he did not get the carries. But go back and watch him run last year-perfect combination of Power, grace and speed.

Who was More fluid and better? JC has one of the best ypc in NFL history.

12-24-2010, 11:32 AM	#151
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4701115	I'm with Hootie on this one. If the defender gets his hands on the ball, or knocks the ball out with his hands, it's a pass defensed. Had that defender not made contact with the ball, I'd agree it's a drop.
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12-24-2010, 01:47 PM	#158
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well Charles was every bit as good as Chris Johnson down the stretch last year (as soon as Charles got his shot) and he's been the superior back this year so I'm not quite sure what Halfcan said that was so shocking
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Charles last 16 games: 251 for 1664 (6.63 YPC) and 6 43 for 438 and 1 best RB in the NFL
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12-24-2010, 02:01 PM	#162
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well he is better than CJ this season... and Foster has been great, no doubt...but is his team winning games? They went from a pass heavy, elite offense that could score at will to a run first team that struggles to score points.
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