Should Penn State Get the Death Penalty?

[Trivers]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/481264...lege_football/


Looks like officials are going from Penn State to state pen. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself.)

What say ye? If so, for how long?

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Laz

I doubt the NCAA has guts to significantly punish a University the size of Penn State over this. It this was about 'Midlevel State University' or something they would be talking all tough and looking to set an example.

With PSU they will hide behind "it's a legal matter for the law" and go back to counting their money like the gigantic pussies they are.

Maybe the will surprise me, but i doubt it.

Am I the only one who observes how ****ing stupid Laz is? How does this moron find air to breath without choking on his pillow at night?

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

http://bwi.rivals.com/

They have a nice start to the 2013 class so far. Surprising.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

I doubt the NCAA has guts to significantly punish a University the size of Penn State over this. It this was about 'Midlevel State University' or something they would be talking all tough and looking to set an example.

With PSU they will hide behind "it's a legal matter for the law" and go back to counting their money like the gigantic pussies they are.

Maybe the will surprise me, but i doubt it.

At the end of the day, Penn State is an educational institution. And a very good one. It is funded by taxpayers. It is a critical means for Pennsylvania's economy to educate young minds and keep jobs in state. It is an employer of thousands upon thousands of employers. And it is a very important means for giving students with lesser means to pay the ability to get a quality education for a good in-state tuition price.

Football is a very important way that Penn State raises money to provide that educational experience. They aren't counting money, as you claim. When the football program is competitive, alumni donations flood through the doors. That's the case with any state football program. When the donations stop coming in, the quality of the education suffers. So they are counting money so that they can pump it back into the educational institution.

You are talking about a measure that is going to cut Penn State from under the knees. It's going to ruin educational opportunities to thousands upon thousands of innocent high school students every year. It's going to cost the taxpayers a fortune. And it's going to hit the state of Pennsylvania below the knees maybe for a good 15-20 years.

This is an argument for why the death penalty shouldn't exist anywhere. Rather than bitch about ridiculous abuses of NCAA power, how about we finally force the NCAA to enforce the rules in place. This would have never happened if the NCAA didn't create a culture among college football programs of secrecy and cheating.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

laugh all you want but this isn't ONLY a legal issue for the law.

All the stupid 'too many texts to a recruit' or 'buying a recruit breakfast' NCAA violations is utter tripe compared to this.

If they don't act on a serious situation like this then what good are they?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Laz

laugh all you want but this isn't ONLY a legal issue for the law.

All the stupid 'too many texts to a recruit' or 'buying a recruit breakfast' NCAA violations is utter tripe compared to this.

If they don't act on a serious situation like this then what good are they?

I don't think anyone's denying that there should be sanctions.

The death penalty has economic repercussions that go WAY beyond football.

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by Laz

laugh all you want but this isn't ONLY a legal issue for the law.

All the stupid 'too many texts to a recruit' or 'buying a recruit breakfast' NCAA violations is utter tripe compared to this.

If they don't act on a serious situation like this then what good are they?

Your posts on the matter are drivel compared to DJs left nut. I'm beginning to think you got denied admission to the University in which case you should be happy.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You are talking about a measure that is going to cut Penn State from under the knees.

And they earned every cut

too big/important to punish is complete and utter bullshit ... it leads to wall street/Big bank/toxic dumping/BP oil spill/Big Government level corruptions and problems.

You do want is right and pay the penalty ... make sure it doesn't happen again.

anything less and it just muddies the waters for the future and creates more problems.

PSU is strong enough to survive 2 years of no football ... and they should have to to send a message to everyone else.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Football is a very important way that Penn State raises money to provide that educational experience.

That there is the problem. The money derived from one program and the reputation of that program was viewed as more important than the lives and well beings of children being brutalized within the confines of the institution.

If Penn State alumni and boosters are really proud of their heritage, they will continue to donate money to the school so that the programs and departments that are innocent can continue to succeed and flourish.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

Your posts on the matter are drivel compared to DJs left nut. I'm beginning to think you got denied admission to the University in which case you should be happy.

whatever douche ... you know nothing about me, so

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by Laz

PSU is strong enough to survive 2 years of no football ... and they should have to to send a message to everyone else.

I'd give them 14 years of no football. One year for every year they covered up the crime.

[Ace Gunner]

"Should Penn State Get the Death Penalty?"

ABSO - ****ING - LUTELY

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'd give them 14 years of no football. One year for every year they covered up the crime.

i can certainly understand the sentiment

I still think completely shutting down a football program the size of PSU for 2 years will send an important and significant message to everyone.

All the civil suits will also continue

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Laz

laugh all you want but this isn't ONLY a legal issue for the law.

All the stupid 'too many texts to a recruit' or 'buying a recruit breakfast' NCAA violations is utter tripe compared to this.

If they don't act on a serious situation like this then what good are they?

Violations regarding recruiting college athletes, betting on collegiate athletics, etc; are collegiate athletic issues that are dealt with by an association for collegiate athletics.

Raping a child is a legal issue... doesn't matter if was the head coach of the football team or the physics professor, it's not an collegiate athletics issue. It's a legal issue. And in this case, it's also a matter of following the Clery Act, which is being investigated by the Department of Education.

No one is arguing the acts are worse than when SMU got the death penalty, but SMU's problems were athletic violations.

If you text an athlete too many times, the cops aren't going to get involved. The NCAA will though, because it's an NCAA rule. Not a legal one.

[Reerun_KC]

Did they or did they not use the Althetic dept people and its image to cover this up?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

That there is the problem. The money derived from one program and the reputation of that program was viewed as more important than the lives and well beings of children being brutalized within the confines of the institution.

If Penn State alumni and boosters are really proud of their heritage, they will continue to donate money to the school so that the programs and departments that are innocent can continue to succeed and flourish.

In Candyland, this is the way it works.

On Planet Earth, all major D-1 Universities rely heavily on alumni donations that are largely a product of how good the athletic team is.